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Old 10-24-2010, 03:19 PM
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David Gilmour - Best Pink Floyd bassist !

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I made a few covers of Pink Floyd.
But damn, the most difficult ones were all made and recorded by David Gilmour !
Why is Roger so far from creating good basslines?

Fat Old Sun:
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Pigs (Three Different Ones):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjG8wtD6eTY


Both songs basslines were written and recorded by him... It killed me when I knew that!
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I think your title needs some editing

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David Gilmour - The Pink Floyd bassist !
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Gotta love these threads.

If it aint wanking bass, I guess it doesn't count.

Roger Waters actually played some Perfect lines for many of the tunes. Yeah, it's not Jaco or Victor all over the board, but - many of those lines worked. Perfectly.
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Because David is a better bass player then Roger.
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Old 10-24-2010, 03:42 PM
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I always thought that line on Money needed some double-thumb slap. Too bad he couldn't pull it off. Imagine how many more records they could have sold.
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Yeah, Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun is far too basic.
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If you take The Dark Side of the Moon for an example, you will see that the album uses the main note and its octave... Roger uses that in all his songs... Why? I think that Floyd songs would not change so much if he could change his way of playing...
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Probably, but I don't listen to Pink Floyd for the bass playing.
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Yeah, I listen to Pink Floyd for many reasons. But when you play Pink Floyd, you certainly pay attention to these things.
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There is nothing wrong with the bass lines that Roger laid down for Floyd. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but at the end of the day all of the members from PF either wrote or contributed in making music that has stood the test of time.

The bass line to money is killer, and I doubt many of us will ever come close to writing song or bass line that would be as popular in our respective life times.

I personally think that more of us should be worrying about honing our craft instead of judging musicians who have already stamped their mark on the history of popular music.

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Why is Roger so far from creating good basslines?

More like, why do you have such a jaded view of what makes a good bassline?

You don't understand Pink Floyd, or Waters' input into their sound. That is your problem, not Waters. Waters is a little like Phil Lesh... a flats-pick player (no doubt serious crimes in your book) who played out and loud. If you ever get Pink Floyd bootlegs from the early 1970s Roger's playing dominates.

If you check out what he plays here, especially the five note turnaround before every verse you should understand why I appreciate him.
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Probably, but I don't listen to Pink Floyd for the bass playing.
EXACTLY!!!!!
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Roger's best bassline is still 'Young Lust', by far
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The bass line to Money is killer, and I doubt many of us will ever come close to writing song or bass line that would be as popular in our respective life times.
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Maybe this forum needs to be renamed TalkWank.com
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Roger's best bassline is still 'Young Lust', by far
That was Gilmour...
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A good example of Roger on Bass.

This is from Piper at the Gates of Dawn released 1967

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD5Xy0RYbI4

There are rumors of Roger playing the solo with his Ric and a violin bow.

Roger really played his #$$ off in the early days, but as time went on Roger began to focus on the song, more importantly writing the song. Remember Roger began on guitar, and according to him was demoted to bass.

Most people I talk to think Piper sounds silly and dated, and I can see where they're coming from. Trying to play these songs with a band accurately is actually kind of tricky.

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hey hey hey... Some of you did not understand me here !

What I really meant was why all most complex basslines from Floyd were written by Gilmour instead of Waters !
Hey, I'm a huge fan of Floyd and this is not into discussion.

Wanna know?

Check Money.

B tune for the whole song.

When he changes he goes to E. o.O

He kept the same beat the whole song. I'm not blaming or anything like that. Money is a simple song, but it's great and of course he created his way of playing. I just think that Roger was more into writing song instead of writting instrument lines.

And I don't have any problem. This was just a question dude.
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Probably, but I don't listen to Pink Floyd for the bass playing.
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I have heard that Gilmour played on at least 50% of their bass tracks. Could be, who cares?
None of them are known as great technical musicians. That being said, the most intense moments of the Pink Floyd songs are usually those incredible solos that only Gilmour can play.
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