Do you think Victor Wooten or Jaco can fingerstyle faster than Sheehan?

BrandonBass · #1 06-29-2006, 04:46 AM

Put aside other advanced techniques, put aside slap and stuff. Do you guys think the previous 2 can fingerstyle faster than Sheehan?

Aarix · #2 06-29-2006, 04:58 AM

Nah, Sheehan is blisteringly fast. But Jaco could pump out even 32nd notes longer. And with Victor, it's hard to decide what to call slap vs. fingerstyle since he can play scales and lines with his vicious double thumb/double pop.

I don't doubt that Victor & Billy would have a lot of fun together.

Suckbird · #3 06-29-2006, 06:12 AM

Jaco Pastorius, no.

Victor Wooten, is this a joke?

BrandonBass · #4 06-29-2006, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Suckbird

Jaco Pastorius, no.

Victor Wooten, is this a joke?

so....victor wooten can like pluck much faster than sheehan?

and no, this is not a joke....btw, wooten uses only 2 fingers yea?

gkbass13 · #5 06-29-2006, 08:19 AM

are we talking consistant notes over a decent duration of time or justa quick string of notes?

Alan Vorse · #6 06-29-2006, 08:19 AM

Didn't we just go down this road of "Fastest Bass Player" type stuff a few weeks ago?

VinceLovesF · #7 06-29-2006, 08:20 AM

Music is not about speed, it's all about "feeling"!

BrandonBass · #8 06-29-2006, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by VinceLovesF

Music is not about speed, it's all about "feeling"!

dude, of course i know that. id also prefer guys like frusciante and slash over vai and malmsteen.

but im just curious who can play faster, not who is the better musician

cowsgomoo · #9 06-29-2006, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BrandonBass

Put aside other advanced techniques, put aside slap and stuff. Do you guys think the previous 2 can fingerstyle faster than Sheehan?

I doubt Jaco can...

Alan Vorse · #10 06-29-2006, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BrandonBass

Put aside other advanced techniques, put aside slap and stuff. Do you guys think the previous 2 can fingerstyle faster than Sheehan?

I am prepared to get flamed:
Maybe Sheehan has faster fingerstyle...when it comes to playing pentatonic or over one chord. Jaco and Victor can play fast, OVER CHANGES.

But does any of this matter? I feel like I'm in the late 80s again."Yngvie is faster than Vai."

I like chops and fast playing. I even like to do it myself, but to sit around and rate who's faster, its like we're clicking the stop-watch at the Olympics.

How about which of those three is the best composer.

CrUiSeR · #11 06-29-2006, 09:39 AM

Rocco can out-play Jaco

What the hell am I hiding for!
It's the truth.

phxlbrmpf · #12 06-29-2006, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Suckbird

Jaco Pastorius, no.

Victor Wooten, is this a joke?

You're so right, his playing sure is such a joke!

CrUiSeR · #13 06-29-2006, 09:59 AM

At least this isn't as bad as the guy(?) saying Wooten is
over-rated after only hearing one song

Nothing against Sheehan(he's a MONSTER)/Talas, but Jaco's
and Wooten's comps are a lot more tasty.

JimK · #14 06-29-2006, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by harmolodic

I am prepared to get flamed:
Maybe Sheehan has faster fingerstyle...when it comes to playing pentatonic or over one chord. Jaco and Victor can play fast, OVER CHANGES.

Agree 100%...that, to me, involves 'thinking fast' & having the chops(techincal + musical) to pull it off.

Back in my day, there used to be something called 'speed' & 'usable speed'.

**Mark Wilson** · #15 06-29-2006, 10:25 AM

Jaco can play 32nd notes for like...5 minutes with little breaks (Kuru)
And Victor is just blistering fast playing pentatonic.

Personally, I just don't like Sheehan at all. Not my style

-Mark

drums_n_bass · #16 06-29-2006, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by VinceLovesF

Music is not about speed, it's all about "feeling"!

Ditto... (i.e. Jaco)

Steve Bailey plucks with 3 fingers... he has some endurance.

CrUiSeR · #17 06-29-2006, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Wilson

Jaco can

no

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Originally Posted by Aarix

Jaco could

sad, but true

Erick Lam · #18 06-29-2006, 12:02 PM

I try to stay out of these arguments but sometimes kids need a reality check.

All I know of Sheehan is what you can find on youtube.com. He certainly can handle the bass. But a lot of this type of playing, or shredding, is patterns up and down the neck, written down (maybe not literally), and rehearsed over and over. Add some fuzz and it seems faster. It consists of a lot of tricks, which is ok since it's all about showing off and make the crowd go wild, but it's not as hard as you might think (relatively speaking).

Anyway, take a look at the video below. If it isn't enough for you, I can assure you he can pluck a lot faster than on this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4husAmhq78

BrandonBass · #19 06-29-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Erick Lam

I try to stay out of these arguments but sometimes kids need a reality check.

All I know of Sheehan is what you can find on youtube.com. He certainly can handle the bass. But a lot of this type of playing, or shredding, is patterns up and down the neck, written down (maybe not literally), and rehearsed over and over. Add some fuzz and it seems faster. It consists of a lot of tricks, which is ok since it's all about showing off and make the crowd go wild, but it's not as hard as you might think (relatively speaking).

Anyway, take a look at the video below. If it isn't enough for you, I can assure you he can pluck a lot faster than on this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4husAmhq78

guess yeah right on the kid part. Im really inexperienced but i gotta admit im impressed by those kinda shredding stuff....so you cant really blame me. I admit that sheehan solos get boring after awhile but theyre pretty cool when in small doses.

Anyways I dont think sheehan rehearse any of his solos at all. He said an interview he just goes to stage w/o his head and play whats in his mind in the heat of the moment

Baryonyx · #20 06-29-2006, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by harmolodic

But does any of this matter? I feel like I'm in the late 80s again."Yngvie is faster than Vai."

Vai was actually faster than Yngwie. His solo in "The Riddle" is actually faster that anything Yngwie has done (source: Total Gutiar Magazine: Fastest Players of The 80's).

However, to dismiss Vai on the grounds that he can play fast is ridiculous. That would be totally disregarding his compostional abilities and utterly unique and lyrical phrasing. Whereas Yngwie found himself a niche early on and has operated there ever since (still to much fan applause), Vai has evolved contastly while maintaining his own idenity as a musician.

I find those who pigeonhole Vai as a "speed" player utterly ludicrous. What, do they just tune out when a slow number of his comes on (off the top of my head: Whispering a Prayer, For The love of God, Blue Powder). Sure, he may play some fasts licks in them but they are essentially "slow" tunes.

rant over.