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View Poll Results: Favorite Metallica bassist | |
Cliff Burton
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Jason Newstead
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Robert Trujillo
|   | 74 | 14.15% |  | | 
07-23-2008, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by C'thulhu So you saw a thread about a band and music style you don't like and you deliberatly have to post that rock/metal bassists suck.
That's sad.  | Indeed, and a waste of both your time, and ours.
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07-23-2008, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by C'thulhu A whole thread of "hail Cliff" can also get boring I guess.  | Not to me, I voted for Jason! 
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07-23-2008, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Qvist LOL =P I could only imagine what metallica would be like if Claypool got the gig instead of Newsted
PS: Well said C'tulhu! |
did you ever hear Blind Illusion - a metal band with Claypool prior to Primus getting big. I think it's actually when Larry and Les met. | 
07-23-2008, 11:13 AM
|  | Stefan René Julien | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belgium | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkstrike Not to me, I voted for Jason!  | Just when I thought you were okay, you go with Jason.
"Cliff was so much better that Jason. How can you compare them. Cliff is a god and Jason sucks. ..."
^^  Nah, just messing around. (the above statements are sarcastic.)
That was a point I want to make about these posters bashing all Metallica bassists and metal bassists in general.
In this thread we can discuss who was better and why in the band Metallica. Either with respectful arguments or heated lashing out (within the forum rules).
But sadly some people like trolling around.
I still think your a cool dude Darkstride.
Jason also gets a lot of respect from me. Perhaps I dare to say that he is technically better.
But he is no Cliff.
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07-23-2008, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by C'thulhu Just when I thought you were okay, you go with Jason.
"Cliff was so much better that Jason. How can you compare them. Cliff is a god and Jason sucks. ..."
^^  Nah, just messing around. (the above statements are sarcastic.)
That was a point I want to make about these posters bashing all Metallica bassists and metal bassists in general.
In this thread we can discuss who was better and why in the band Metallica. Either with respectful arguments or heated lashing out (within the forum rules).
But sadly some people like trolling around.
I still think your a cool dude Darkstride.
Jason also gets a lot of respect from me. Perhaps I dare to say that he is technically better.
But he is no Cliff. |
Hell, I love 'em all, three fantastic bass players,
Cliff's the reason I bought a Wah,
but I like Jason's tone the best, that and his twenty or so Sadowsky's!
I wouldn't fight with anyone who like's someone else, that's all cool too. 
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07-23-2008, 04:17 PM
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07-23-2008, 04:23 PM
|  | Stefan René Julien | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belgium | | Quote:
Originally Posted by kyral210 ..., but cliff wrote Master of Puppets, enough said! | +1
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07-23-2008, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tomvelsor not to mention the countless other jazz/funk monsters that could school these rocker types anyday, but still kids look up to them...sigh.. | With all due respect this is utter nonsense. What genre you play has next to nothing to do with anything. How myopic and elitist. Now go listen to some Spiral Architect and get some "schooling" yourself. | 
07-23-2008, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kyral210 Why is this thread even running? Its Cliff all the way. Rob Tujiho is ****ing awesome, but cliff wrote Master of Puppets, enough said! | Cliff wrote Master of Puppets?
The song or the album?
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07-23-2008, 09:02 PM
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07-23-2008, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tomvelsor not to mention the countless other jazz/funk monsters that could school these rocker types anyday, but still kids look up to them...sigh.. | Frankly as much as i respect jazz and all, i don't think Stanley Clarke or Victor Bailey could cut the gig with Metallica.
It's a different kind of gig.
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07-23-2008, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by C'thulhu
FYI: most rock/metal bassists run circles around jazz/fusion players when it comes to technique and melody. | With all due respect that's also very stupid.
Again, different kind of gig.
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07-23-2008, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by C'thulhu FYI: most rock/metal bassists run circles around jazz/fusion players when it comes to technique and melody. | Lol wut?
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07-23-2008, 09:36 PM
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I look forward to judge HIS contribution to Metallica in the new album. St Anger is NOT a measure, as he didin't recorded it. All around great bassist, wild on stage and right on the money in the old songs. Cliff is more inspirational for me, but I relate more on Roberto's take on metal and general playing style.
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07-24-2008, 12:59 AM
|  | Stefan René Julien | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belgium | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Rano Bass With all due respect that's also very stupid.
Again, different kind of gig. | Perhaps I was a bit angry when I said that, due to these idiots walking in here bringing jazz and fusion in the discussion.
What I meant to say is: some rock/metal bassists runs circles around the average jazz/fusion bassist when it comes to technique and melody.
Don't get me wrong, as much as I love walking basslines in jazz, metal is more demanding and allows the bassist, in fact each musician, to be more melodic and use more techniques.
Granted: 90% of metal bassists give us a bad rep by just playing root notes, but there are some pearls in the 10% that's left.
Ignorant people like tomvelsor and Elrend here should learn to respect other genres more.
Now I'm starting to learn jazz as a bassist. Because I love that genre also. But it's not as demending as metal.
I will not say it's very easy, but it's more about groove and feeling.
To me the bass in jazz (coming from metal) is a different instrument.
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07-24-2008, 01:09 AM
| | | | Metallica haven't written a good song or album in almost 20 years. It's impossible for me to enjoy either of their newer bass players because their music makes me want to vomit.
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07-24-2008, 01:26 AM
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Cliff may have been the better player but I liked Jason's style.  Why is Trujillo getting votes 
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07-24-2008, 02:12 AM
|  | Stefan René Julien | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belgium | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Jensby design  Why is Trujillo getting votes  | Freedom of choice I guess.
It's not Robs fault that he joined when the old geezers started to play crap rock.
I guess he needed the job.
You got to see it objectively. Think about him as a bassist, not as a member of the new Metallica.
Metallica never let a crummy bassist in. (Well except for Ron McGovney, but that were just growing pains.)
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07-24-2008, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by C'thulhu Metallica never let a crummy bassist in. (Well except for Ron McGovney, but that were just growing pains.) | Ron wasn't bad, pretty good in fact, just followed the roots a lot.
He's fantastic if you consider that he didn't play at all when he joined, and James was teaching him after he agreed to be in the band.
He wasn't let in either, more like they begged him to help, then gave him the shaft when Cliff came on the scene.
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07-24-2008, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Darkstrike Ron wasn't bad, pretty good in fact, just followed the roots a lot.
He's fantastic if you consider that he didn't play at all when he joined, and James was teaching him after he agreed to be in the band.
He wasn't let in either, more like they begged him to help, then gave him the shaft when Cliff came on the scene. | Yeah, I've got to step back on my words a bit.
I didn't mean to imply that Ron was crummy. I actually don't know much about him, not many people do I guess.
But my point was: he was no Cliff. 
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