Feildy vs. Justin Chancellor

[Tedintheshed]

There was a lot of uproar in the bass community during cause by the Bass Player interview of Feildy of Korn when he said he didn't practice.

Do you still practice?

Not really. A little before a tour, I'll make sure my playing becomes more regular, just to build up strength.

Justin Chancellor in July 2007 Bass Player Magazine

I think it is interesting that he didn't receive the same response from the community that Feildy did.

[MammaryVest]

I'm not saying that this is my opinion, but a reason may be because Justin has actually proven his skill and legitimacy as a player. And Fieldy (I suppose) hasn't.

[moogboy]

i dont really like either of them. BUT, theres always a BUT, Fieldy killed a Pink Floyd song, so i like Justin more.

[bacid]

There's also a difference in being Justin Chancellor and being Fieldy. Justin Chancellor is a genious. I'm not saying that Fieldy is bad, but I'm not saying he's good either. I will say however that he never impressed me. Justin Chancellor on the other hand has never not impressed me. Justin Chancellor said that whenever he plays something he is writing something new and that he only practices to build up his strength and stamina for the song. IMO the things that he writes are magical and if all he needs to do is practice it a few times after he writes it to get it down, so be it. I doubt Fieldy writes anything other than "clackity clack thud" when he plays and I don't know how he is about his practice methods. Now to clear things up, I never said Fieldy sucked or that I didn't like Korn, I personally do like Korn and I think that Fieldy's playing fits in with the band, all I said was that he has never impressed me as a bass player (or as a rapper.) Also comparing Fieldy to Justin Chancellor IMO is blasphemous. Fieldy does not compare to Justin Chancellor.

[Tedintheshed]

Just to play devil's advocate, one could say the Feildy has appeared on countless hit albums and has had a very good career ober the last 10 years or so. Doesn't that qualify him as someone who has proven his skill and legitimacy as a bass player?

Originally Posted by MammaryVest

I'm not saying that this is my opinion, but a reason may be because Justin has actually proven his skill and legitimacy as a player. And Fieldy (I suppose) hasn't.

[BassSurfer]

justin c... fieldys tone and style doesent impress me... when they did a cover of metallica's one and he slapped it with that signature korn tone it sounded so weird..

[Tedintheshed]

Originally Posted by moogboy

i dont really like either of them. BUT, theres always a BUT, Fieldy killed a Pink Floyd song, so i like Justin more.

Naw- Monkey and Head killed that song. Neither of them could begin to approach the left hand of David Gilmour.

[jacohead]

Originally Posted by Tedintheshed

Just to play devil's advocate, one could say the Feildy has appeared on countless hit albums and has had a very good career ober the last 10 years or so. Doesn't that qualify him as someone who has proven his skill and legitimacy as a bass player?

having a great music career does not reflect musicianship.

[Tbirdbassist]

That Korn cover wasn't bad, Fieldy certainly didn't kill it. I actually don't think it's a great song to begin with...


Only reason there was an uproar is because Fieldy pretty much has no respect in the bass, hell, he's got none form other musicians and non musicians as well. While Justin is always praised and has loads of respect from musicians and non musician's alike.

I think it's sad how bassist don't have respect for Fieldy, seeing as though we seem to be the friendliest of all musicians.He plays what goes best with the music and his tone, whether you like it or not, fits perfect for the music. Korn has been seriously lacking these past 6 or so years. But they, took music in another direction and opened doors for other bands. If people can't accept that, they need to get their heads out of their asses.


Same goes for Tool, opened doors, broke barriers, etc etc. Justin just happens to get more respect because he is a well rounded player who is very creative, with tone that kills.

Tool and Korn are pretty similar, actually. They sound like no one else, they opened doors. Just so happens that one bassist is respected and the other isn't.

Meh.


These threads are retarded, and it should be closed before it goes any further. People can't possibly express how they feel about either player more than they have already.

[bacid]

Originally Posted by Tedintheshed

Just to play devil's advocate, one could say the Feildy has appeared on countless hit albums and has had a very good career ober the last 10 years or so. Doesn't that qualify him as someone who has proven his skill and legitimacy as a bass player?

To play someone who knows people. 3/4 of the world is plumb-slap ate up with the dumbass. Being on countless hit albums means nothing if people are stupid. Just because you have a hit album doesn't means you have skill. Lindsay Lohan had a hit album, Justin Timberlake had a hit album, the Backstreet Boys had countless hit albums. Does that mean they have skill or talent. Hits are about marketing, talent is about talent. There's a sucker born every minute and anyone will buy something.

[Tbirdbassist]

Originally Posted by jacohead

having a great music career does not reflect musicianship.

Why should musicianship have to do anything with how much a respect a musician gets?

[Tedintheshed]

You had an excellent response, until this:

Originally Posted by Tbirdbassist

Meh.

These threads are retarded, and it should be closed before it goes any further. People can't possibly express how they feel about either player more than they have already.

You miss the gist of the thread. It isn't about these two players as so much it is about us.

EDIT:

To expand upon this, I believe we can have a discussion maturely, can't we? if not, isn't that a horrible commentary on us as it is?

[Tedintheshed]

Originally Posted by bacid

Lindsay Lohan had a hit album, Justin Timberlake had a hit album, the Backstreet Boys had countless hit albums. Does that mean they have skill or talent.

Yes, it does at least to some extent.

[TeeMartin]

Maybe people are suggesting that Fieldy should go practice more because of his lack of skill. Justin gets away with not practicing because he has proven his skill. Or something.

[Tbirdbassist]

Nah I didn't miss the jist. That was just a poke to the "gods" to make this thread disappear...

[Tedintheshed]

Originally Posted by TeeMartin

Maybe people are suggesting that Fieldy should go practice more because of his lack of skill. Justin gets away with not practicing because he has proven his skill. Or something.

A valid point.

Perhaps their skill sets are just different though.

Billy Sheehan once commented that Cliff Williams of AC/DC was one of his favorite players because even though his lines are simple, he is always "there" and never overplayed. This is a good example of two completely different skill sets, yet the one whose general perception is higher admires the one that is perceived as lower.

[Amaru]

Originally Posted by Tedintheshed

Yes, it does at least to some extent.

Not really, because most of their music (besides timberlake) wasn't written by themselves. So, therefore, they do not have talent.

[fraublugher]

as long as the bonfire has no endangered woods in it im all for it

[duff84]

i hate threads like this.

think of it like this, if feildy played in the same style justin chancellor does, korn's music wouldn't sound the same. sure he doesn't play all melodically, and why should he, what he plays fits the songs.

all i can say is who are we to judge others unless we lived a day in theyre shoes.

i hope to god i never see another thread like this again. we are all musicians who are supposed to respect eachother, not rap artists who diss eachother.

[Zappstorius]

Originally Posted by Tedintheshed

Naw- Monkey and Head killed that song. Neither of them could begin to approach the left hand of David Gilmour.

Uhhh, I think Head nailed the solo note for note.