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Old 01-25-2013, 05:17 PM
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People who want to measure Gene Simmons' musicianship are missing the point big time. He provides musical entertainment, where the balance is tipped towards entertainment : just as Hulk Hogan is part of 'sports-entertainment'. Hogan is by no means a top athlete or a proper sportsman, its entertainment. Sitting down and watching Bill Evans is musical entertainment too, but it sure is a lot less showmanship.
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Its funny, I was sort of thinking about this the other day, and as much of a KISS fan I am (I bought Destroyer and Dynasty when I was 13 and have pretty much collected all their other albums over the years), I honestly can not picture Gene Simmons as the kind of guy that makes time to just sit and actually practice playing or writing music. The most practice he probably gets is when he's rehearsing or writing with the rest of the band. I just can't imagine him as the kind of guy that sits and just plays and try's to come up with stuff at home when he's not doing the regular "Gene Simmons" stuff.

That said, I don't think he's a bad player. His bass lines really help to define the rhythm in a lot of KISS songs. I don't think he deserves as much bad rep as he gets. I could think of other bass players that deserve it a lot more.
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The thing with Gene is that his persona is polarizing. If you like his persona, or can get past it to the real man, then you're willing to listen and give him the benefit of the doubt - and you'll think he's a fairly good bass player. If you don't like the persona, or don't like the band, then you'll denigrate him because he made a ton of money and you think you're "better" than he is, but you're not, and it ticks you off, so you knock him. The fact of the matter is, he's better than you are, and I can prove it: he's a multimillionaire due largely to his bass playing, and you're wanking away in your basement.
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Its funny, I was sort of thinking about this the other day, and as much of a KISS fan I am (I bought Destroyer and Dynasty when I was 13 and have pretty much collected all their other albums over the years), I honestly can not picture Gene Simmons as the kind of guy that makes time to just sit and actually practice playing or writing music. The most practice he probably gets is when he's rehearsing or writing with the rest of the band. I just can't imagine him as the kind of guy that sits and just plays and try's to come up with stuff at home when he's not doing the regular "Gene Simmons" stuff.

That said, I don't think he's a bad player. His bass lines really help to define the rhythm in a lot of KISS songs. I don't think he deserves as much bad rep as he gets. I could think of other bass players that deserve it a lot more.
I agree,practice and technique can disconnect you from the feel of the music,in this case rock and roll.Rock is raw and passionate.With that said I don't see anything wrong with his playing. I'm not even a kiss fan.
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I think there are bassists in rock that arent as good as Gene Simmons, no question about it.
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:01 AM
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This is just me, but I think that KISS's non makeup era and the Unplugged MTV concert they did are proof enough that their music can stand on its own. They didnt go for blood or bombs or flashpots, or flying rigs in the 80s and mid 90's, that was when they were forced to think more of the music. I personally think that Gene is a great bassist by definition of what a good bassist should be, that is, when he applies himself.

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Old 01-26-2013, 11:08 AM
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Adam Carolla discusses "Lick it Up" (and other creepy songs):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtbpFNrIBBM

(contains graphic language - just a warning for the easily offended)
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