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10-14-2008, 02:58 PM
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I was always facinated by the fact that parts played on a song/album are not always performed by the band's "official" bass player.
For example - all bass parts on the Bon Jovi albums ( all of them) were done by Hugh McDonald, not Alec Jon Such, the band's bassist for a major of the group's existence (especially in their late 80's- early 90's heyday).
I've also hear rumors that some tracks performed on KISS albums were not recorded by Gene Simmons...
Does anyone know of other examples of this? Besides Danny Partridge, of course... 
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10-14-2008, 03:08 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tijuana Mex. | | Steve Bailey claims to have ghosted on a few rock albums.
Of course he's not telling which ones 
Bob Babbit said he ghosted for Gene Simmons.
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10-14-2008, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Rano Bass 
Bob Babbit said he ghosted for Gene Simmons.
| Babbitt: the real 'God of Thunder'  
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10-14-2008, 03:14 PM
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10-14-2008, 03:15 PM
| | | | I think glen campbell "ghosted" for Peter Tork.
I thought Carol Kay (sp?) ghosted for Gene Simmons. |
10-14-2008, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by iamthebassman There's the Pink Floyd bass "situation". | True, but I was thinking of more of a player outside of a band's fold - like if Carol Kaye played on the 'Animals' album!
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10-14-2008, 03:18 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I been everywhere, man... | | | Gene Simmons has mentioned in print several times that he didn't play on all of the KISS stuff. He didn't even play bass on his solo record - Neil Jason did.
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10-14-2008, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Rano Bass Steve Bailey claims to have ghosted on a few rock albums.
Of course he's not telling which ones
Bob Babbit said he ghosted for Gene Simmons. | I heard just the opposite, that he refused Gene. I'd be curious
what the truth is there. Quote:
Originally Posted by Buskman Babbitt: the real 'God of Thunder' | 
If he wants the moniker, I will yield to his superior abilities. 
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10-14-2008, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 20db pad Gene Simmons...didn't even play bass on his solo record - Neil Jason did. | Gene didn't take credit for it either. Just guitar and vocals.
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10-15-2008, 12:11 PM
|  | Holding the Line, Low, Loud & Proud | | Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leander, TX (outside Austin) | | | Back in the old tape days mistakes happened and bass tracks occasionally got erased, usually just a section but sometimes an entire track went missing. Very often the offending engineer would call in some reliable player to fix the bumble as they were afraid to fess up or if the real player was not available, on tour or too stoned. That reliable player would be able to quickly cop the right tone, feel, attitude and could be trusted to not make a big deal out of the secret work. Ghost players usually left with a nice bit of budget money in pocket and lots of good will from engineers and producers. |
10-15-2008, 12:27 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Horsham, Pa | | | I hear billy corgan recorded the bass parts instead of D'arcy. In fact, I read it in an interview with D'arcy. Oh, I'm talking about the smashing pumpkins.
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10-15-2008, 12:30 PM
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Dennis Wilson did not play drums on many of the Beach Boys recordings. |
10-15-2008, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by scottbass Famous example from history:
Dennis Wilson did not play drums on many of the Beach Boys recordings. | Nor did Brian play bass, for that matter...
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10-15-2008, 03:46 PM
|  | The Lowdown Diggler | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA | | | Roger Waters had a Ghost right up there on stage with him this last time I saw him. It didn't really take away from the greatness of what I was seeing though. |
10-15-2008, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MakiSupaStar Roger Waters had a Ghost right up there on stage with him this last time I saw him. It didn't really take away from the greatness of what I was seeing though. | Blimey, that must of been a bit spooky. |
10-15-2008, 11:07 PM
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10-16-2008, 01:25 AM
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10-16-2008, 04:02 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tijuana Mex. | | I guess it's gonna be really hard to get accurate info on this subject.
Mostly urban legends
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10-16-2008, 04:05 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tijuana Mex. | | | Now that i remember... some "X" bassist and not Stuart Zender played on the album version of the song "Return of the Space Cowboy" by Jamiroquai.
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10-16-2008, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Rano Bass Now that i remember... some "X" bassist and not Stuart Zender played on the album version of the song "Return of the Space Cowboy" by Jamiroquai. | John Doe?
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