How come this guy doesn't get the love?

hrgiger · #1 02-18-2009, 10:18 AM

As far as bassists go, I've never seen anything like this guy. I watch the other guy's videos and while they are very good, I just don't 'feel' it like I do with this guy's. I can imagine if he was playing this in front of a crowd of 5,000 I bet he would have the place rockin'!

Is this guy good or what? If so, why doesn't he get any recognition here? If you've watched his videos, please comment...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qwgk...e=channel_page

rockwarnick · #2 02-18-2009, 10:33 AM

....damn.
i guess its just that he's not too well-known. even though he ought to be. one hell of a player, no doubt

Frank Tuesday · #3 02-18-2009, 10:38 AM

Brilliant technical execution. Kitchen sink. Building a house without a foundation. Meh.

Here is another one by him.
Fugue.

Again, brilliant execution, but lets be honest. Tapping on the bass doesn't have the same beauty of sound that a piano, harp or even classical guitar would have.

rockwarnick · #4 02-18-2009, 10:39 AM

now heres something i have not seen before
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ5ug...eature=channel
...yea

BigOldHarry · #5 02-18-2009, 10:41 AM

I have to agree with Frank. Very impressive, just not very musical, in my opinion.

BananaKing · #6 02-18-2009, 10:42 AM

I've seen his videos too and I love his style.

One hell of a bassist.

I don't know who he has played with, but maybe he doesn't have that much in the way of experience with big name players? That seems to be the only thing that makes any sense to me.

cnltb · #7 02-18-2009, 10:43 AM

His tone is .gly I think and although it is executed well enough it doesn't "do" anything for me

Vakmere · #8 02-18-2009, 10:44 AM

This guys from Italy. Great skill however it depends where he's promoting himself and what venues he's involved with in order to be recognized. Very athletic and full of neat interesting techniques, I dont find him as musical as, for example, Adam Nitti who is extreemly musical and has as many techniques to use. Each of these guys have something to offer the world of bass.

agreatheight · #9 02-18-2009, 11:02 AM

I couldn't get through more than 20 seconds of each video. Lots of technique, but uninteresting beyond that.

martyman5000 · #10 02-18-2009, 11:09 AM

I'd rather watch Dave...

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=80341 17

Matt Dean · #11 02-18-2009, 11:12 AM

He seems to be more of a stick player... not really bass.

CrispyDelicious · #12 02-18-2009, 11:19 AM

I'm on the "impressive technique but not very musical" side of the fence. They get boring about 20 seconds in.

wellshuxley · #13 02-18-2009, 11:22 AM

Can't imagine that guy playing WITH anyone else...

hrgiger · #14 02-18-2009, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by agreatheight

I couldn't get through more than 20 seconds of each video. Lots of technique, but uninteresting beyond that.

So basically it's because people won't give him a chance. Giving someone only 20 seconds is downright disrespectful. How would any of us like it if people we played for gave us 20 seconds and said 'that's it.' That's the kind of thing laypeople would don't play and don't appreciate music do. Not fellow musicians. Maybe when someone reaches a pinnacle like this we become sort of 'laypeople' again and get bored by that which is beyond reach...

The thing about this video (above) is that it is composed of several different segments, it keeps changing, some parts you may not like some you may...

middlebit · #15 02-18-2009, 11:32 AM

Incredible technique, but I hear no groove at all. It's not all-important to everyone, but it is to me. I also find it weird that his "lessons" have no value as such. How many, for example, learned something from his "sight reading bass lesson"?

hrgiger · #16 02-18-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by cnltb

His tone is .gly

That was a low blow. Just so people know, this is video and audio recorded by a hand held video camera, then compressed and played back on youtube! Please don't consider this his TONE.

hrgiger · #17 02-18-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by middlebit

Incredible technique, but I hear no groove at all. It's not all-important to everyone, but it is to me. I also find it weird that his "lessons" have no value as such. How many, for example, learned something from his "sight reading bass lesson"?

I think he was just trying to figure out the best way to get exposure for his videos. He is a bass teacher in Italy (according to his profile.)

This video IS actually a lesson (done very well with normal/slow speed):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKW5s...e=channel_page

CrispyDelicious · #18 02-18-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by hrgiger

So basically it's because people won't give him a chance. Giving someone only 20 seconds is downright disrespectful. How would any of us like it if people we played for gave us 20 seconds and said 'that's it.' That's the kind of thing laypeople would don't play and don't appreciate music do. Not fellow musicians. Maybe when someone reaches a pinnacle like this we become sort of 'laypeople' again and get bored by that which is beyond reach...

The thing about this video (above) is that it is composed of several different segments, it keeps changing, some parts you may not like some you may...

Oh, I skipped about to different sections in different videos. His playing just doesn't do it for me. He's obviously got insane chops, but that alone doesn't constitute a great musician, IMO, FWIW.

WJGreer · #19 02-18-2009, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by hrgiger

Is this guy good or what? If so, why doesn't he get any recognition here?

Many things are necessary for a person to have a successful musical career. Chops are on the list somewhere, but not at or near the top. As for recognition here - on Talkbass - the admiration of one's peers is nice as long as it comes as a byproduct of some other kind of achievement. On its own, it holds little value. IMO of course.

This guy is good though - no arguing that.

middlebit · #20 02-18-2009, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by hrgiger

I think he was just trying to figure out the best way to get exposure for his videos. He is a bass teacher in Italy (according to his profile.)

That's cool, I understand that. But I'm still going to expect a video with the word "lesson" in its name to exist for the purpose of communicating something that relates to the footage.

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Originally Posted by hrgiger

This video IS actually a lesson (done very well with normal/slow speed):

Yes, we agree that it's a lesson.