Hub

heath_the_great · #1 11-25-2005, 09:53 PM

well, after listening to the roots come alive all week ive come to the conclusion that hub is very underrated....love hub...thats a place id love to go with my playing

jerry · #2 11-26-2005, 03:17 AM

+1.....I first got into Hub when I saw the pay-per-view of Woodstock 99. He just blew my mind with his groove!

**Vorago** · #3 11-26-2005, 03:33 AM

Great bassplayer, very into the pocket! But, the guy has a great groove, but he has some nice chops, too!

One of my favourite bassplayers, favourite rhythmsection and band!

**Adam Barkley** · #4 11-26-2005, 08:17 AM

I'm still wondering who does all this rating?

**j-raj** · #5 11-26-2005, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by abark000

I'm still wondering who does all this rating?

they do.

**Adam Barkley** · #6 11-26-2005, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by j-raj

they do.

gulp...

Matt Till · #7 11-26-2005, 06:34 PM

Underrated: did you read his interview in BP magazine? He rates himself very highly! Do you want more?!?! is like the greatest hip hop album ever.

P.S. Matt Till is underrated.

tplyons · #8 11-26-2005, 10:51 PM

Did a gig working sound for Rahzel, who used to perform with the Roots, had nothing but good things to say about Hub. I believe it all.

willgroove2 · #9 11-27-2005, 01:54 AM

I saw the roots at the house of blues chicago last week,great show(the best live show in hiphop IMO)the legendary roots crew was in fine form.I dig hub,he is the prototype for holding it down on a hiphop gig and i like the fact that he get's a bass solo during the show,although it was funny to hear a kid standing near me say"I thought you could only take bass solos in jazz"

heath_the_great · #10 11-27-2005, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Till

Underrated: did you read his interview in BP magazine? He rates himself very highly! Do you want more?!?! is like the greatest hip hop album ever.

P.S. Matt Till is underrated.

yeah i read that, bass guitar mag actually BP is too expensive

almost $20 that mag aint worth it, and him talking about why he play's jazz basses "because the people he liked and the style of music he liked mainly used jazz basses" really made a whole lot of sense to me and also helped me choose my jazz....

but speaking of interviews i currently read vic wootens interview in bass guitar and it actually made me angry, he seems really up himself saying that he beleives he can do what hendrix and bob marley didnt do and thats appeal to a black audience....and he said that he thinks its "cool" that white people are into parliament and maceo but he thinks black people arent into any more

i got recent bootleg george clinton/funkadelic/parliament video footage and the whole audience is black

...one thing made sense though he said he realised that people were only listening to him because of the pyrotechnics...but thats my opinion and how he came across to me...

but hub...very nice, love him...i rate him because just listening to him makes me "dance" and smile, and if someone does that, or sends a shiver up my spine, i beleive they are good, and hub does that...

i got into the roots via erykah badu, when i was just getting into erykah i downloaded (i download when finding new bands then if i like i buy albums, kinda like a free preview) "you got me" and when i heard that i went out and bought "The Tipping Point" the i got "The Roots Come Alive" the other day...im gonna get phrenology soon

..but i really dig "you got me" on "come alive" with jill scott, another cool cat im getting into, just bought 826+

willgroove2 · #11 11-27-2005, 03:04 PM

but speaking of interviews i currently read vic wootens interview in bass guitar and it actually made me angry, he seems really up himself saying that he beleives he can do what hendrix and bob marley didnt do and thats appeal to a black audience....and he said that he thinks its "cool" that white people are into parliament and maceo but he thinks black people arent into any more

i got recent bootleg george clinton/funkadelic/parliament video footage and the whole audience is black

...one thing made sense though he said he realised that people were only listening to him because of the pyrotechnics...but thats my opinion and how he came across to me.
Heath,if you do a little a little research you will find IN THE USA(and i write it like that because your in australia),that bob marley and jimi hendrix were far more widely known and liked by white people than the black community.I have a dvd titled "hendrix band of gypsys"that talk's alot about that subject and how hendrix wanted to appeal to black people because his music was based on blues and soul music.bob marley was about to do a tour opening for stevie wonder that was hopfully going to break him open with black people in america when he found out about his cancer.you can read about that in a bio book called "catch a fire".as far as the george clinton video;what year was it from?parlement/maceo's audience has changed since the '70's.it definitly has a lesser group of blacks checking it out now because young blacks in the usa are all about hiphop,it's the music of their time just as parliment/maceo/james brown was in the '60's and '70's.so vic's statment is not really that outside of reason. being that his band is getting gig's within the jam band community,and myself having gone to some of those types of gig's and being one of the few blacks there, i know what he's trying to do and i for one think it's great so i think you have to look at it from his view point.

Dr. Cheese · #12 11-27-2005, 04:14 PM

+1 for Will. During Marley's lifetime, the African Americans who were into him were either political or of Caribbean background. He did have some radio hits in his lifetime on r&b radio like "Jammin'" and "Exodus," but he was minor in the US black community while he was huge in the Caribbean, Europe, and Africa.

During his lifetime, Hendrix had even less appeal than Marley since his was not dance music and was associated with young whites. Today, I think that Hendix is appreciated among musicians and middle class males to a certain degree, at least he was when I was younger.

superbassman2000 · #13 11-27-2005, 06:55 PM

back to hub, i remember in the BP mag, they said a lot of good things about his bass solos, i'd be interested in hearing one, as BP claims he a real virtuoso...

DWBass · #14 11-27-2005, 08:06 PM

Hmmm.....I also recall him having said some negative things about ERB's and their players! While I think Hub is a good player I wouldn't classify him a virtuoso but as long as he thinks his is that's all that counts! He's got a better gig than I do!

willgroove2 · #15 11-27-2005, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by superbassman2000

back to hub, i remember in the BP mag, they said a lot of good things about his bass solos, i'd be interested in hearing one, as BP claims he a real virtuoso...

virtuoso as a soloist? nah IMO

Niels Keijzer · #16 11-28-2005, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by willgroove2

virtuoso as a soloist? nah IMO

He has some virtuoso groove going on all of the time. He might take a solo once during the night, but his most interesting work is during songs, if you ask me. So why the focus on a bass solo?

jerry · #17 11-28-2005, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Niels Keijzer

He has some virtuoso groove going on all of the time. He might take a solo once during the night, but his most interesting work is during songs, if you ask me. So why the focus on a bass solo?

+1..........I didn't think we where talking about soloing either.

JimK · #18 11-28-2005, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by willgroove2

...do a little a little research you will find IN THE USA(and i write it like that because your in australia),that bob marley and jimi hendrix were far more widely known and liked by white people than the black community.

Same arguement can be made for Miles...On The Corner(& the various albums' artwork) was an obvious appeal to American Black listeners/record buyers.

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Originally Posted by willgroove2

as far as the george clinton video;what year was it from?parlement/maceo's audience has changed since the '70's.it definitly has a lesser group of blacks checking it out now because young blacks in the usa are all about hiphop,it's the music of their time just as parliment/maceo/james brown was in the '60's and '70's.so vic's statment is not really that outside of reason. being that his band is getting gig's within the jam band community,and myself having gone to some of those types of gig's and being one of the few blacks there, i know what he's trying to do and i for one think it's great so i think you have to look at it from his view point.

Agree.

willgroove2 · #19 11-28-2005, 12:52 PM

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Niels Keijzer]He has some virtuoso groove going on all of the time. He might take a solo once during the night, but his most interesting work is during songs, if you ask me. So why the focus on a bass solo?[/QUOTE

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I was replying to a early post in this thread that said bass player mag said he was a virtuoso soloist and as i said that's IMO.I agree that his most interesting work is during songs but i like the fact he takes solo's i just don't think the solos are on a virtuoso level,they serve a purpose during the roots set.

willgroove2 · #20 11-28-2005, 01:04 PM

[quote][quote=JimK]Same arguement can be made for Miles...On The Corner(& the various albums' artwork) was an obvious appeal to American Black listeners/record buyers.
in miles bio he talks about wanting to connect with that group of listeners because they would allow him to move forward with his music.off topic; it's always funny to me to hear musical neo-con's say that miles "sold out to make money"with his fusion records.when you go back to listen to them that stuff dosn't sound like easy-listening music to me.