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02-15-2010, 10:27 PM
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Hi everybody,
I know a lot of us TB types hate Gene Simmons. I'll be the first to admit that the man can be very annoying (if you've seen the Tom Selleck movie "Runaway" you know what I mean). That said, I think he's a better bassist than he gets credit for. For example, David Ellefson has said that Gene was one of the biggest reasons that he took up the bass guitar. Me, too.
Anyway, here's an old Bass Player magazine interview with Gene that you may or may not find interesting. I liked it a lot.
Yes, the man plays simple lines. But last I checked, simplicity in a bass player is not a bad thing in itself. I like his groove, consistency, and early songwriting. But I also readily acknowledge his weaknesses.
AK http://www.bassplayer.com/article/ge...ew/jan-00/6992 | 
02-15-2010, 11:51 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Albuquerque, NM | | | I just dug out that issue and re-read it tonight. Nice transcription of the Calling Dr Love bass line in that same ish.
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02-16-2010, 12:00 AM
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02-16-2010, 12:20 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Columbus, OH | | | I think that role in "Extract" isn't too far from his business persona--cutting deals and getting the biggest piece for himself, etc.
Gene is by far my single biggest influence and it's my opinion that those who dismiss his playing haven't actually heard enough of it. Admittedly, he doesn't have big chops, but seems to me that he does everything you could want a bassist to do in a classic rock/hard rock setting. | 
02-16-2010, 12:27 AM
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02-16-2010, 12:27 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Metro Detroit | | | Listen to the Hotter Than Hell and Dressed to Kill albums. There are some great basslines on some of those songs. I'm no big KISS fan, but they were a good rock and roll band, once. | 
02-16-2010, 06:44 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Grand Rapids MI | | | I really don't know how good of a player Gene is becuase I don't know hat he recorded and what ghost players recorded.
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02-16-2010, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by john_martin_sai | I think he he was, in that context, speaking of basses in the studio.
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02-16-2010, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by tycobb73 I really don't know how good of a player Gene is becuase I don't know hat he recorded and what ghost players recorded. | Take a look at their discography before 1983 because Gene played on all of that stuff then from '84-'91, he was involed in a movie career, so bassists came in and played root notes.
I always thought Gene was a pretty good player in the rock genre. May not be 5 trillion notes a second, but listen to songs like Goin Blind, and Detroit Rock City and 100,000 Years just to name a few. Both of those took me a while to learn.
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02-16-2010, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Stingray19 I think he he was, in that context, speaking of basses in the studio. | I don't agree; in a live context more than anything, the bass is just a loud thumping noise (well, for rock music anyway), so 9 times out of 10 you could be playing a 2x4 with a big rubber band for a string, amplified through "any big old amp", and it would sound more or less the same to most people in the audience. | 
02-16-2010, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bongomania I don't agree; in a live context more than anything, the bass is just a loud thumping noise (well, for rock music anyway), so 9 times out of 10 you could be playing a 2x4 with a big rubber band for a string, amplified through "any big old amp", and it would sound more or less the same to most people in the audience. | So do you think he was right
in saying that??
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02-16-2010, 12:50 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Grand Rapids MI | | | did anyone contradicting himself when he said a bass is a bass but then talks about how great his basses are? Well, according to Gene, it doesn't matter how great Gene's basses are because any bass will serve the purpose. How do I know he still doesn't recored with his BC Rich basses?
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02-16-2010, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Stingray19 Take a look at their discography before 1983 because Gene played on all of that stuff then from '84-'91, he was involed in a movie career, so bassists came in and played root notes. | This is pretty much true. However, a most of the bass work post '83 was done by the other band members (Paul, Eric and Bruce). | 
02-16-2010, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Stingray19 So do you think he was right
in saying that?? | Well I obsess on the look, feel, and tone of my basses and rig just as much as most TB'ers do, so it's not like I'm going to sit here and say "the bass and amp don't matter at all". But I do think those things usually don't matter to the audience of a rock band. Well, aside from looking cool. | 
02-16-2010, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NS2A This is pretty much true. However, a most of the bass work post '83 was done by the other band members (Paul, Eric and Bruce). | Is your avatar supposed to be Gene with an Axe bass in the 80s??  | 
02-16-2010, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tycobb73 did anyone contradicting himself when he said a bass is a bass but then talks about how great his basses are? Well, according to Gene, it doesn't matter how great Gene's basses are because any bass will serve the purpose. How do I know he still doesn't recored with his BC Rich basses? |
This is a video of them recording their new Sonic Boom album, Gene in the studio using a Gibson Ripper......I want that tone AND that Ripper!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKCPmspnuYE | 
02-16-2010, 02:11 PM
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02-16-2010, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Noseferatu Is your avatar supposed to be Gene with an Axe bass in the 80s??  | Yup.  | 
02-16-2010, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by NS2A Yup.  |
Very KOOL!!!  | 
02-16-2010, 07:11 PM
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