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06-24-2010, 08:18 AM
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So, before coming to this site I had never heard of Jaco. The guys that impressed the hell out of me were Manring, Cliff Burton, Geddy Lee, etc.. I've done a few searches on Jaco vids and still haven't been convinced as to why he's so loved. If you care to, convince me.
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06-24-2010, 08:28 AM
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06-24-2010, 08:31 AM
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06-24-2010, 08:34 AM
| | | | the only thing i get is portrait of tracy.. other then that......uuh.....he is an excellent bass player
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06-24-2010, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by stepswork4me So, before coming to this site I had never heard of Jaco. The guys that impressed the hell out of me were Manring, Cliff Burton, Geddy Lee, etc.. I've done a few searches on Jaco vids and still haven't been convinced as to why he's so loved. If you care to, convince me. | If you check out his music (recordings, not videos: The Essential Jaco Pastorius is a good compilation to start with), and keep in mind the context and time period in which he was creating, his genius becomes apparent. His music is not everyone's cup of tea, and can be an acquired taste. Listen to his work with Weather Report and with Pat Metheny and Joni Mitchell, in addition to his solo stuff.
He's best known for defining the sound of the fretless bass as his voice. However, his genius as a composer is often overlooked.
There's a biography on Jaco by Milkowski. It's an interesting read, but it's also a tough read because Jaco was so troubled by severe manic depression that his skills were overshadowed by his personality.
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06-24-2010, 08:35 AM
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06-24-2010, 08:36 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Metro St. Louis | | Nobody can convince you of anything. Just listen to him and study him. However you feel after that is how you feel, period. 
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06-24-2010, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese Nobody can convince you of anything. Just listen to him and study him. However you feel after that is how you feel, period. |
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06-24-2010, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese Nobody can convince you of anything. Just listen to him and study him. However you feel after that is how you feel, period. | I'm not saying, "convince me into enjoying him". I just haven't been able to understand why he's so adored by others. I'm asking to be shown why others have such a passion towards his playing. I wanna hear other's favorite pieces and such.
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06-24-2010, 08:43 AM
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06-24-2010, 08:43 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Long Island,New York | | | He seems to be one of the first guys who played bebop lines on the electric bass. Playing Charlie Parker lines on a fretless bass flawlessly is not an easy task. It kind of depends on what music you listen to. If you don't like or don't get bebop, I don't think you will get Jaco. It seems a lot of guys(in the jazz world)started to sound like him after he arrived on the scene. So in a sense he was an innovator for the fretless and electric bass. Its all good though....to each his own.
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06-24-2010, 08:44 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Southwest, Michigan | | | I think it also depends on your style of play. If you do a lot jazz and gospel as do i, you gonna see his brilliance right off the bat. |
06-24-2010, 08:46 AM
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06-24-2010, 08:47 AM
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There are aspects of his playing style that I love and certain things that don't move me at all. I go through phases of either loving him or hating him but I'm listening to the first solo album a lot at the moment and I can't get away from "come on over". For all the intricate and complex stuff he's known for, the groove on that song just floors me every time.
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06-24-2010, 08:54 AM
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06-24-2010, 08:56 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pennsylvania | | | Im not into Jazz and even though Ive been playing a long time and heard the name, I never intentionally listened to anything by Jaco up until a couple of years ago. I watched some youtube videos and was like...o..k...but then I quickly heard the recorded version of Teen Town and that was enough to blow me away. After that, Havona just kills me as does Continuum and lots of the stuff he did with Joni Mitchell. The youtube solos arent what you should base any opinion on IMHO. |
06-24-2010, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Bassman8416 | Havona is a beautiful piece. I can understand the reverence with that. Donna Lee.... not my cup, but great playing. While listening to Havona I was reminded of something I was exposed to a long time ago. Some of you may know of Cynic and Sean Malone. If not, here is a cool piece. Just never mind the vocals.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdwrOESDXxo
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06-24-2010, 09:08 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: South Florida | | I live and lived in South Florida when Jaco was doing his thing. The thing is, he left his legacy and its still growing. I bought a bass book that was compiled by one of his former students ( he didn't have that many) , I can't play a lick of what he did , but he did it before anybody else. People are still playing catch-up..............................I am a plodding old bass player and soloing is not my thing. Jaco was a real soloist and set the bar real high for others to match......  |
06-24-2010, 09:13 AM
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It's sort of like Hendrix - in context of, say, post 1978, Hendrix is "just another very good guitar player". In the context of 1967, it was "where the heck did this guy come from??!! NOBODY plays like this!!"
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06-24-2010, 09:16 AM
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