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Old 01-18-2008, 08:13 AM
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Jaco playing So What

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Here's a video with Jaco and Bireli Lagrene playing
So What. This should once and for all prove to everyone
that Jaco was a great improviser:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ImYv8zsc0s
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I wasn't aware that anything needed to be proven...
Thanx for pointing that out.
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Here's a video with Jaco and Bireli Lagrene playing
So What. This should once and for all prove to everyone
that Jaco was a great improviser:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ImYv8zsc0s
I'm a big Jaco fan, but I think it's funny that you chose a video which tends to show the opposite of what you say!

So for a start "So What" is basically just two chords (modes technically) and Jaco gets in plenty of his signature 'licks' that you can hear on WR Recordings and elsewhere.

Also - his solo isn't very melodic and doesn't really go anywhere - I've heard/seen better from him!
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Old 01-18-2008, 11:01 AM
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Although Jaco threw in 5-6 of his familiar licks
I would say that 3/5 of the solo was improvised.

What are your three favorite live Jaco-solos
Bruce?

Mine are his solo on Zores Mores from Trilogue,
his solo on All The Things You Are with Pat
Metheny from a bootleg recorded in 1975/76 and
his solo on Mr.PC with Brian Melvin in Toulose.
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Old 01-18-2008, 11:12 AM
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...this conclusively proves to me that there's yet another Jaco thread.
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...this conclusively proves to me that there's yet another Jaco thread.
... Which is why he titled the thread
"Jaco playing - so what?"


with respect, from someone who loves Jaco and his playing...
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I'm a big Jaco fan, but I think it's funny that you chose a video which tends to show the opposite of what you say!

So for a start "So What" is basically just two chords (modes technically) and Jaco gets in plenty of his signature 'licks' that you can hear on WR Recordings and elsewhere.

Also - his solo isn't very melodic and doesn't really go anywhere - I've heard/seen better from him!
I very much agree !!!!
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+1 on the Trilogue album. Great stuff on there!
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Yeah! That's cool!

Have you guys ever seen Bill play bass? He is awsome...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jhF6...eature=related

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Old 01-20-2008, 08:26 AM
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Yeah! That's cool!

Have you guys ever seen Bill play bass? He is awsome...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jhF6...eature=related

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That's a real interesting video. His playing is totally awesome but he comes nowhere near close the Jaco feel. It's funny how you can really tell he tried very hard to sound like Jaco (in this particular piece) but (again imho) utterly failed.

Goes to show that Jaco isn't someone who can be copied so easily.
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Yeah! I heard you but I think he better than the many Jaco's clones..
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Well he's one of the few that's actually played with Jaco. I think watching this video you can tell he "gets" what Jaco meant to express through his music, that's always a big plus on cats who copy licks because they think it'll make them more proficient technically but completely omit looking at the "feel" part of Jaco's playing, which goes much further than his technical prowess.
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Every video of seen of Bireli playing bass is him playing all jaco licks. jaco did teach him a few things I've heard but come on play something original.
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Every video of seen of Bireli playing bass is him playing all jaco licks. jaco did teach him a few things I've heard but come on play something original.
Whilst I completely agree with this statement
One thing

He's a guitarist, really...playing like Django most of the time...
I think as a guitarist he does have a voice.
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Goes to show that Jaco isn't someone who can be copied so easily.
Yes but you couldn't copy me nor I you or jaco either of us.

Everyones playing is like a finger print.
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I'm a big Jaco fan, but I think it's funny that you chose a video which tends to show the opposite of what you say!

So for a start "So What" is basically just two chords (modes technically) and Jaco gets in plenty of his signature 'licks' that you can hear on WR Recordings and elsewhere.

Also - his solo isn't very melodic and doesn't really go anywhere - I've heard/seen better from him!

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Well, I'm not even really a big Jaco fan, but I do enjoy some of his work. I didn't think this was very good. For starters the tempo seem to me like it's just too fast for this tune to groove right. The drums are killing me, I'm not digging the constant fast cymbal pulse... The whole things just seems fast and kind of messy. I could almost suspect that copious amounts of cocaine were used back stage just prior to this recording.
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Yes but you couldn't copy me nor I you or jaco either of us.

Everyones playing is like a finger print.
I disagree.
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I could almost suspect that copious amounts of cocaine were used back stage just prior to this recording.
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Every video of seen of Bireli playing bass is him playing all jaco licks. jaco did teach him a few things I've heard but come on play something original.
Yeah, here is a vid of Bireli playing bass, and takes a solo! jaco really did rub off on his playing! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__TjjM5zYSU
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Old 01-26-2008, 02:36 AM
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HI

Jaco never had anything to prove. One of the most artistic musicians ever. Maybe the most influential electric bassist ever

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