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Old 02-20-2007, 04:34 PM
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Zender, Fyffe, Turner.

Plus a few other step ins.....who do you rate....they are all fine fine bassists.

I am a Zender fan....but i appreciate the others too...what do you all think of these guys?
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The band today is better than they've ever been to me as a fan of the music. I love Paul's vibe and hope his stuff continues to kill like the little bit we've heard from him.

Randy is one of my favorite players... so even though he was just a brief hired gun, he shines.

Some of my favorite tunes and lines from the band come with Nick on bass.

The busiest and most "bass player in me digs it" stuff comes from Stu
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I like it all but Stu is my fav I think... I just love that acid jazz groove he has......

"Alright" just gets me grooving everytime...

on the other hand though, "Falling" has to be one of my favourite basslines ever... and that AFAIK was Nick... falling is one of those songs that really makes me think...

its a tough call, but I still think Stu gets it! at the end of the day though, its all Jamiroquai, so its OK in my books
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i really like all of them. I think they each bring their own "vibe" and I dig each vibe. Stu's got that busy feel to his stuff, and he really smokes. Nick is more laid back, but he still grooves down when needed. Paul's got a nice busy vibe, but he can also lay back and groove to.

They're all talented, and I try to emulate/cop them constantly.
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They're all talented, and I try to emulate/cop them constantly.
I agree!
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Old 02-20-2007, 10:39 PM
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I really dig everything about Stu's lines, but really they all bring a lot to the table. One consistant thing is that regardless of which bassist, Jamiroquai records always have a great tone.
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As James said, even though it was brief, Randy is def the superior player. I believe he is Mr X, and the playing on the album version of SC is in a different league to the single version
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Old 02-21-2007, 03:58 AM
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I think Stuart Zender is the only one who is allowed to impose his personality on the recordings and he is the real "stand-out" in Jamiroquai.

After him - it all just sounds like Jay Kay plus session musicians to me...

So, for example - although I really like Randy Hope-Taylor on other things - he is completely anonymous in Jamiroquai and it could be anybody...

Although the very latest incarnation of the band is promising in live videos I have seen - but not yet on record.
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Randy is def the superior player.
For those that don't know, we are taking about Randy Hope-Taylor.

He's playing on this track from the latest studio disc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OoXiPY_Yzs

and 2 live with Jeff Back last summer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOL4RcmBj9I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omjS9QxZ-8w
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Old 02-21-2007, 04:09 AM
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I have the latest album and while it is pretty groovy and nice to play in the car - none of the bass playing stands out to my ears, in the way that Stuart Zender's contributions did!
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I heard that Mr Zender had only been playing for 2 years when they recorded the first album.(and following albums) Which makes me think his style is not as perfect(sometimes too perfect) as session musicians.And therefor...More recognisable.. I have to be honest i wouldnt recognise Randy's playing from any record, even though i know Incognito very well, but i do think his playing stands out from just anyone. The only style i could recognise is perhaps Meshell Ndegeocello's.

Is this the difference between trained and untrained musicians. ie the trained bassists cant have too distinct a style as it may impose on different work. I guess what im saying is, is that its harder to recognise a session bassist than non someone like Stu Zender?
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Old 02-21-2007, 06:55 AM
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No - I can recognise Marcus Miller from one note!
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+1 on Stu! definitely the man!
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Just to clarify, Randy Hope Taylor did NOT play bass on the album version of 'Space Cowboy', it was in fact an anonymous producer that in Zender's absence, filled in, much to Stuart's annoyance apparently. No one knows who the bloke is apart from Jay Kay.

Back on topic, Stuart is my favourite bass player of all time, easily. He brought so much to the band in terms of sound, and my GOD the man can groove...and he was the original, really.

Second favourite is probably Paul Turner. Love his style, he's done well filling the position of Jamiroquai's bass player. His playing is always consistantly tight when playing live, his equipment is top notch stuff (Musicman Stingrays, including a lovely '77, his old Fender Jazz basses, an F-Bass, a Clover H.5, a Nordstrand Jazz 5, an old P-Bass and more recently he's gotten himself an Alleva-Coppolo 5 string...what a collection).

Nick Fyffe was a good player, but he didn't really integrate as well with the band I thought. He wrote some classic basslines though, I really liked 'Where Do We Go From Here' and 'Soul Education', though ironically perhaps the best bassline from that album came from Toby Smith on a Novation Bass Station ('Canned Heat').


Respectable, GIANT mention to one of my other favourite players of all time, Randy Hope Taylor. If you haven't heard 'Starchild', then you don't know the meaning of clean playing!
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Oh yeh, I forgot to mention, Randy Hope Taylor actually has a part time job as a London Bus Driver...just goes to show that you might have played with Jamiroquai, but work for a pro-session player can be few and far between.
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I think Stuart Zender is the only one who is allowed to impose his personality on the recordings and he is the real "stand-out" in Jamiroquai.

After him - it all just sounds like Jay Kay plus session musicians to me...
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I agree here.....I find this true especially with Nick Fyffe....and like others have mentioned Paul Turner seems to be going for more than just session bassist.
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Just as a side note what do people think of Stus playing in his lastest project, LEROI?
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crikey!! its a tough call to make as jamiroquai produces some of the finest bassists in modern popular music imo...but ive always been a HUGE zender fan so id have to say him
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Zender-Hope-Taylor-Levy-Fyffe-Turner.

Personally, I don't dig the newer guys. At the end of the day, most of the lines were probably jay kays call anyway.

And I can't believe that Randy is a parttime bus driver!?!? Is there any point in me trying to be a pro musician...

Also, I am the guy who played on the album version of SC!!
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I think Stuart Zender is the only one who is allowed to impose his personality on the recordings and he is the real "stand-out" in Jamiroquai.

After him - it all just sounds like Jay Kay plus session musicians to me...

So, for example - although I really like Randy Hope-Taylor on other things - he is completely anonymous in Jamiroquai and it could be anybody...

Although the very latest incarnation of the band is promising in live videos I have seen - but not yet on record.
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