Jeff Andrews a Jaco clone??? Or a lot more

Music_for_life · #1 06-28-2011, 02:14 PM

What do you think of Jeff he gone to much further jaco influence and develop his own style and licks....
Or he is a jaco copy???

YouTube - ‪Jeff Andrews - Bass Solo w/ Mike Stern Trio 1‬&rlm;
YouTube - ‪Tom Coster "Wasteland/The Jam " From the Forbidden Zone CD‬&rlm;
YouTube - ‪Jeff Andrews - Bass Solo 1‬&rlm;

DWBass · #2 06-28-2011, 02:17 PM

Jeff is VERY influenced by Jaco. Great player though. I'd love to hear him on a nice boutique or better made bass than that 'thing' he plays!

allexcosta · #3 06-28-2011, 02:20 PM

Influenced? Yes
Copy? No
Went further? No

You can hear Jaco in Jeff's playing as much as you can hear Jaco in Tom Kennedy's, Tal's, or anyone else's playing...

WJGreer · #4 06-28-2011, 02:22 PM

Well, those are certainly some Jaco-sounding solos, but figure just about every jazz cat his age was very full of Jaco for a long, long time - some of us still are!

I've got some recordings of Andrews with Mike Stern made at about the same time and a little earlier (Upside/Downside and Jigsaw, to name them), and he's not ripping any Jaco fills in the supporting parts.

I find no foul...

WJGreer · #5 06-28-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by allexcosta

You can hear Jaco in Jeff's playing as much as you can hear Jaco in Tom Kennedy's, Tal's, or anyone else's playing...

I'm with you on Tom Kennedy, but Tal sounds more like Jeff Berlin to me. IMO of course.

Music_for_life · #6 06-28-2011, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by allexcosta

Influenced? Yes
Copy? No
Went further? No

You can hear Jaco in Jeff's playing as much as you can hear Jaco in Tom Kennedy's, Tal's, or anyone else's playing...

I think Jeff devastates and could humillate Tom Kennedy....he is way better IMO

allexcosta · #7 06-28-2011, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Music_for_life

I think Jeff devastates and could humillate Tom Kennedy....he is way better IMO

Not the subject of the thread, but both Jeff and Tom are some serious players... Although I do prefer Jeff's phrasing there's no way I'd say he's better than Tom...

DWBass · #8 06-28-2011, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Music_for_life

I think Jeff devastates and could humillate Tom Kennedy....he is way better IMO

groooooove · #9 06-28-2011, 02:33 PM

his solos can get better than jacos. but he wouldn't play like that if it weren't for jaco..

not a clone though. not everyone who likes a punchy bridge pickup is a jaco clone. very, very influenced though- he used to study with jaco.

JimK · #10 06-28-2011, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by allexcosta

Not the subject of the thread, but both Jeff and Tom are some serious players... Although I do prefer Jeff's phrasing there's no way I'd say he's better than Tom...

I agree.
Berlin definitely excels in the more Rock-Fusion things.
Kennedy's swing/upright/"legit"/Latin chops may be better than Berlin's.
Both sound great in trios led by Fusion guitarists.

JimK · #11 06-28-2011, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DWBass

Jeff is VERY influenced by Jaco. Great player though. I'd love to hear him on a nice boutique or better made bass than that 'thing' he plays!

I love that "thing" he plays. More character & individuality than what a "boutique" bass has, IMO.

bassbrad · #12 06-28-2011, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by groooooove

... but he wouldn't play like that if it weren't for jaco..

Safe to say that 99% of bass players fall in the same boat.

I have a lot of respect for Jeff's playing.

DWBass · #13 06-28-2011, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JimK

I love that "thing" he plays. More character & individuality than what a "boutique" bass has, IMO.

I didn't say I wanted him to ditch that 'thing'! Just want to hear him on something else.

DWBass · #14 06-28-2011, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JimK

Berlin definitely excels in the more Rock-Fusion things.

I agree!

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Originally Posted by JimK

Kennedy's swing/upright/"legit"/Latin chops IS better than Berlin's.

Fixed!

allexcosta · #15 06-28-2011, 06:55 PM

Weren't we talking about Jeff Andrews, not Jeff Berlin?

DWBass · #16 06-28-2011, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by allexcosta

Weren't we talking about Jeff Andrews, not Jeff Berlin?

Who??

KTFunkAlive · #17 06-28-2011, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JimK

I agree.
Berlin definitely excels in the more Rock-Fusion things.
Kennedy's swing/upright/"legit"/Latin chops may be better than Berlin's.
Both sound great in trios led by Fusion guitarists.

Andrews not Berlin.

I love Jeff's (Andrews) playing, seen him a few times live. He's a killer. IMHO

LM Bass · #18 06-28-2011, 07:47 PM

Jeff Andrews is fantastic! Real jazz phrasing there, not just fast pentatonic chops and slapping like so many players.

bottomzone · #19 06-28-2011, 08:21 PM

Jaco-often imitated, but never duplicated.

A Groove is a Terrible Thing to Waste!

JimK · #20 06-29-2011, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KTFunkAlive

Andrews not Berlin.

I love Jeff's (Andrews) playing, seen him a few times live. He's a killer. IMHO

Somewhere my wires got crossed between Posts 5 & 6...I need to lay off the Blue Moons during the week.

That said, I think Andrews is great...& does not get mentioned enough.