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01-12-2005, 05:21 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Istanbul | | | John Illsley.....anyone ?_
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I find it quite weird and annoying to see not many people here talk about him( Dire Straits bass player ) .just in 3 topics
His lines sound so simple at first but when you try to play them you realize the complicated timing and perfect groove within the most simple and purest form..which I think is the ideal role of bass in a rock band :Being there but being hidden(not soundwise,he has a huge sound in the mix ),but as an idea.you just have to explore to find it ..IMO
To me he is one of the best bass players in the rock history What do you guys think ? ...why underrate him that much ?
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01-14-2005, 08:43 AM
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Strong, simple, good tone.
Good groove player. |
01-14-2005, 06:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: tasmania, australia | | very cool lines
i learnt a lot of them when i was just first starting to play bass, i think DS songs are good for beginners to learn, the bass is easy to hear in the mix and the lines encourage good technique and groove, without being too fancy or complicated
just my 2cents 
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01-14-2005, 07:37 PM
|  | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | I learnt playing along Dire Straits. I love the band and the bass fits perfectly, solid and simple with just a bit of spice.
Nowadays John Illsley is a reknowned painter. 
Little trivia : All Dire Straits songs were played by John Illsley but one. Which was it ?
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01-14-2005, 09:40 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: So. Calif. | | | His basslines aren't as simple as one would think...He performed his function very well..Nothing wrong with a supportive role if you can do it as well as John...I think he played Wals for a while, no?
Cheers
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01-15-2005, 11:31 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: San Francisco, CA (finally!) | | | OK I'll bite on the trivia question pretty much knowing John played on 'Money for Nothing'...but I will guess Sting. |
01-15-2005, 03:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: florence , mississippi | | | Great player, love his work. Brothers in Arms has awesome bass parts.
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01-15-2005, 06:28 PM
| | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by peteroberts OK I'll bite on the trivia question pretty much knowing John played on 'Money for Nothing'...but I will guess Sting. | Wrong song, wrong bassist, right album. 
Sting only did vocals on Money for Nothing.
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01-15-2005, 07:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: florence , mississippi | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Jazz Ad
Little trivia : All Dire Straits songs were played by John Illsley but one. Which was it ?
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Well, I wanna say Walk of Life cause to me, that doesnt match his normal style. As to who it could be , I dunno
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01-16-2005, 12:32 AM
| | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | Nope. John Illsley played on walk of life.
Think VERY different style or more accurately, different technique. |
01-16-2005, 04:34 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Lagny/Marne(77)-HS(74), France | | John Illsley on On The Night! It sucks! 
We don't speak of it, but he's a very good player, one of the reason why DS was so good IMHO!
Not to mention that Guitar player! lol
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01-16-2005, 05:06 AM
| | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | | Yeah that Knopfler guy isn't bad. |
01-16-2005, 02:53 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: San Francisco, CA (finally!) | | | After extensive Googling, it appears that no other than Tony Levin played on the track 'One World'. |
01-16-2005, 03:29 PM
| | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by peteroberts After extensive Googling, it appears that no other than Tony Levin played on the track 'One World'. | 
We have a winner.
Everyone's favorite bald bassist layed a killer slappy line on this song.
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01-17-2005, 03:28 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Istanbul | | hey nice to hear all john illsley fans here
one world sounded always different to my ears with that slap line , Now I understand why . thx .)
before I learned playing bass I used to listen to guitars of Mark all the time.But after learning bass DS was smt else to me all of a sudden.
Now after playing bass for 10+ years I am returning back to him ,I see that we all have a lot to learn from him.
My all time favourite bassline of him is ''Once upon a time in the west''...very simple line,solid as a rock ..very groovy with a bizarre timing here and there
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01-17-2005, 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by slugworth His basslines aren't as simple as one would think...He performed his function very well..Nothing wrong with a supportive role if you can do it as well as John...I think he played Wals for a while, no?
Cheers
Slug | Thats exactly what I think of him.He sounds so very simple at first.But when you dig the idea....he has that brilliant touch!
And as far as I can remember he always played and recorded with his white Fender with flatwounds, no _? |
01-17-2005, 02:06 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: San Francisco, CA (finally!) | | thanks for the pic! I enjoyed it! Quote: |
''Once upon a time in the west''
| I love Communique. Great songs in the 'old school' Dire Straits tradition. Check out Lady Writer.
Oh yeah, and the bass line to ''Once upon a time in the west'' is pretty cool with it's subtle funkiness. |
01-17-2005, 02:18 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Edinboro, PA | | | I prefer guitar george... I mean Mark Knopfler. A guitarist I jam with a lot claims he's a big influence, but he sounds nothing like him. He gets amazing "string like" sounds out of his use of a volume pedal. John's a rock solid bassist though. I enjoy Pick Withers just because of his name/crazy face/really cool fill on Sultans of Swing. That's the kind of "drum solo" I like. The not 3 minutes long, Tom Sawyer esque, huge fill that is flashy, but it isn't just drums. Good band, I've been meaning to get back into listening to them.
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01-17-2005, 02:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Edinboro, PA | | | P.S. I love that Mark Knopfler did the Princess Bride soundtrack. It's kinda funny, but it fits his style really well.
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01-17-2005, 03:46 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: San Francisco, CA (finally!) | | | how about the 'drum solo' on the end of News on Communique? Admittedly, we used to laugh at that one. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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