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Old 05-05-2010, 06:52 AM
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Talking John Wetton (King Crimson, et al) goes back to Fender!

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After using different equipment from the mid-80s onwards, such as Gibson, Zon and Fernandes basses, the legendary John Wetton has finally gone back to his 1961 Fender Precision Bass for the latest Asia tour.

Initially John didn't welcome the idea of touring with this iconic instrument as it was, to paraphrase: "Irrecplaceable."

Subsequently, it was retired for nearly 30 years.

The bass is, however, back on the road, and it is the same bass that is featured on all King Crimson, UK and Uriah Heep recordings, and the debut Asia album.

Tracks like Larks Tongues in Aspic, Red, and In The Dead Of Night were all recorded and performed using this bass, and it is immediately identifiable as John Wetton's P-Bass, in much the same way that Chris Squire is notorious with his Rickenbacker.

Great news for all Fender fans!

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Old 05-05-2010, 07:52 AM
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That is cool!!!! Interesting pickguard mod.
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:14 AM
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That's the Crimson bass? Last time I saw it (which was JW's next-to-last Crimson show) it had an added J near the bridge. Did he take it out?

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Old 05-05-2010, 08:25 AM
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Maybe his hand's in the way of the J pickup?
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:30 AM
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When I saw Asia way back when, Wetton had three P-basses, all painted white with little or no pickguard. I definitely remember a vanilla P and another with double soapbars, and I'm pretty sure the third was a PJ. I think they all had Fender headstocks, but I have no idea how many may have been vintage.
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There is no J-pickup on this bass, there never was...

In early 1973, it was it was a walnut brown finish with a tortoise pickguard until in late 1973 he had it refinished Olympic White and filled the P/U cavity and screw holes. The pickguard was replaced with a custom metal place covering the control knob cavity.

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There is no J-pickup on this bass, there never was...

In early 1973, it was it was a walnut brown finish with a tortoise pickguard until in late 1973 he had it refinished Olympic White and filled the P/U cavity and screw holes. The pickguard was replaced with a custom metal place covering the control knob cavity.
My mistake; you are correct. Funny how the mind can play tricks on you (well, me )

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Old 05-05-2010, 09:20 AM
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His sound in King Crimson has always been the ideal heavy rock P-Bass sound for me. I'm glad it's back.
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The Zon lacked punch when I saw Asia last August. Plenty of bottom, but little else.
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:09 AM
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There is no J-pickup on this bass, there never was...

In early 1973, it was it was a walnut brown finish with a tortoise pickguard until in late 1973 he had it refinished Olympic White and filled the P/U cavity and screw holes. The pickguard was replaced with a custom metal place covering the control knob cavity.

All that custom work and he kept the tug bar on?
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forget the bass...i can't believe that with all his cts troubles that he's still picking like that close to the bridge. i want to buy him a lesson with carol kaye.
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Old 05-06-2010, 07:09 AM
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That's great news, his Crimson-era tone is one of the touchstones of rock bass. I'm seeing Asia at High Voltage Festival soon, I look forward to hearing it!

Pretty sure 'In The Dead Of Night' is his Jazz bass though...
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Oh man, his tone on the whole Red album is orgasmic. I've been trying to copy that for years!
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Has anyone tried out the "original 62 fender precision pickups" for the John Wetton vibe? I love his tone
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Old 05-06-2010, 12:47 PM
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For my money, Julie Slick got pretty good Wetton-like tone from her rig when I saw her with Adrian Belew. Lakland Glaub into an SVT4 Pro, I believe. Not a total cop - Julie has her own thing going on - but definitely made me think of it.

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Has anyone tried out the "original 62 fender precision pickups" for the John Wetton vibe? I love his tone
i have. they're really good.
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Old 05-08-2010, 08:12 AM
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Pretty sure 'In The Dead Of Night' is his Jazz bass though...
Me too. Many other UK tracks as well, like "Rendezvous 6:02".
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Old 05-08-2010, 09:31 AM
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For my money, Julie Slick got pretty good Wetton-like tone from her rig when I saw her with Adrian Belew. Lakland Glaub into an SVT4 Pro, I believe. Not a total cop - Julie has her own thing going on - but definitely made me think of it.

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She's since switched to a G-K rig, and that tone is still there. She gives some credit to her Keeley compressor, but I think most of it is in her hands.
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