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Old 05-12-2011, 01:52 PM
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Jon Camp of Renaissance -any other oldtimers recall him?

Maybe the most classic Ric tone of all the Brit prog players. Excellent sense of both melody and pace. He was one of my early inspirations on bass guitar, with Squire and Bruce.

Nice guy, too. I struck up a conversation with him back in '76 when they played a club here in Mpls. We chatted bass for a bit and he told me they'd be back in a few months at a theatre and if I was there to swing by and he'd introduce me to the rest of the band. He was as good as his word and I met and talked with everyone but the keyboard player, who never talked to the public. And brother, was Annie Haslam (the singer) gorgeous back in the day! She could sing a little, too.

He seemed to disappear off the face of the earth after Renaissance slowly fell apart in the early '80s.
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Old 05-12-2011, 02:56 PM
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His solo on Ashes Are Burning on their Live At Carnegie Hall album sounds so similar to Chris Squire's Fish, and he even dressed the part by wearing a cape the way Squire did at the time. If he's been obscured by time its because he didn't carve enough of a tone for himself, even if the music of the band (him included) was beautiful.
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Old 05-12-2011, 07:40 PM
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Yeah, I remember Jon and Renaissance. Great player, great band. Very classic Rickenbacker tone. We opened for them in '74 and I got to hang with the band as well (even the keyboard player ). I dug up the early discs awhile back and was reminded how much I loved them.

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ps true confessions time - I swiped a pack of used Rotosounds from Jon's case backstage, for a souvenir. Sorry about that Jon
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His solo on Ashes Are Burning on their Live At Carnegie Hall album sounds so similar to Chris Squire's Fish, and he even dressed the part by wearing a cape the way Squire did at the time. If he's been obscured by time its because he didn't carve enough of a tone for himself, even if the music of the band (him included) was beautiful.
I recall an interview where Jon admitted that he was conciously trying to emulate Chris Squire*. But he was definitely one of my faves as a kid, a big influence on my early bass playing. I saw Renaissance at the Felt Forum in 1975, awesome show. And he's definitely a poster boy for the best sounds you can get out of a Rickenbacker.

I've seen some more recent performances on YouTube, and, um, well let's just say Jon's skills haven't quite kept up with the times.


*edit: I found that interview here http://www.nlightsweb.com/lib/reviews/camp97.htm
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Q - Your bass playing has always been melodic and exciting. Who were your influences and how do you think you came to develop this style of playing?
A - In one word Chris Squire. What happened was that I had just got married and believe it or not on our honeymoon we happened to drop into a pub where Yes were playing. I saw Chris and I thought, "Wow!"

Q - You were one of the pioneers of the Rickenbacker Bass sound. What drew you to using this particular bass guitar?

A - Well we go back to Chris Squire. He was the man. I just saw that guitar and heard the sound.

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Old 05-12-2011, 10:06 PM
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I'm a big fan of his as well and have tried to find any news of him in recent years. Does anyone know what he's doing now?
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Old 05-13-2011, 03:29 PM
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Renaissance used to come through the NYC area quite a bit in the mid 70's, I've always dug them and Jon's playing. I break out their albums from time to time, takes me back to the days of WNEW FM.
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Old 05-13-2011, 03:44 PM
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The first rock concert I went to was Renaissance opening for Yes in Philly, back in 1975 or so. They were touring in support of their "Scheherazade" album, which was a great album - that and "Fragile" were the first records I bought...
Such a little prog-head I was back then
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Old 05-24-2011, 04:14 PM
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Although he freely admitted to emulating Chris Squire's sound, I always feel Jon Camp's tone was a better example of the Rick growl.

My fave Jon Camp/Rennaissance moment has to be 'Midas Man', stunning bass line.
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I saw Jon during the last tour that Renaissance did with him, Annie and Michael around '84/5. After that, Annie was the sole survivor with an all new band. He played a black Dick Knight 4-string and watching him play "Can You Hear Me" brought me to tears. Of course "Ashes are Burning" was off the chain. Hope life is good for him.
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Love Jon Camp's playing. I just listened to Ashes Are Burning a couple days ago.
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Old 05-24-2011, 08:33 PM
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Oh yeah.
Loved him.
Squire-lite, but great lines, great tones, nice harmony vocals, and personable stage banter.
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Old 05-25-2011, 04:07 AM
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I still listen to the live recording of Ocean Gypsy on a regular basis and have always enjoyed his tone and melodic playing. Thanks!
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Old 02-12-2012, 10:22 AM
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Jon Camp

I'm still very active-in fact i'm doing a solo album at present!
The whole Chris Squire think gets a bit silly-all I said was that I greatly admire him but that's not what was printed.
I know Chris and think it's no mistake that if you played a Rick you'd either be classed as a Chris, Jon or Geddy sound alike.
It's all about style and vision-not just the sound!
For those of us who have been lucky enough to play in bands that allowed them to be an 'individual' on the bass it is not uncommon to be pigeon holed. It's worth listening to peoples individual performances-I don't think the trained ear would find that many similarities-Stay safe-Jon Camp

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I'm a big fan of his as well and have tried to find any news of him in recent years. Does anyone know what he's doing now?
I've posted-i'm very active and thanks for your kind words-Jon
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Old 02-12-2012, 12:05 PM
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Wow! Jon, you were one of my biggest influences when I was a wee teen in the 1970s, it's so great that you're here on TalkBass!

Tell us more about the forthcoming solo album, please!
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Old 02-12-2012, 12:38 PM
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Hello Jon Camp!!! Are you on Facebook? either way, all the best to you!
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Old 02-12-2012, 02:35 PM
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Hi Jon! Thanks for all the wonderful music, and such glorious bass tone!
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I have several Renaissance albums. A little before my time but some friends from New York turned me on to them around 87' or so. Definately Ric tone to the max. Love your playing Jon. Great Stuff! Thanks for chiming in and best wishes to you!

Loved Annie Haslam's vocals too! What a voice!
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Jon-Freaking-Camp! Brother, you essentially taught me to play bass many years ago. (I probably should owe you some money for all the lessons. )

I've worn out more Renaissance albums than I'd care to remember. I'm glad to hear that you're still playing and have some work coming out.

Keep us informed.
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:56 AM
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Hi Jon! I'm a big fan and have seen you more times than I can count!

A quick question if I may: I know you're identified with the Ric sound (I always loved your playing but I'm not a big Ric guy.) but there are some cuts on Prologue that have a much warmer tone. Was that the Ric as well?

Can't wait to hear your new material!
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