Lee Dorman

Allmanfan456 · #1 04-25-2009, 01:01 AM

There was a topic about him but since its more then a couple years old heres a new one about this fine bassist! Hes so frickin hard to figure out! For the past couple months I've been trying to get the chorus to Most Anything You Want right but I cant get it! Any love for this amazing bassist?

jerry · #2 04-25-2009, 03:19 AM

I was a big Captain Beyond fan when they came out and still revisit the first album from time to time.

JimmyM · #3 04-25-2009, 03:46 AM

I saw IB in 1980 and was pretty impressed with Lee Dorman. Sang great and played great. Talented dude.

So Low Bass · #4 04-25-2009, 08:17 AM

Lee Dorman was my first favorite bass player, with Iron Butterfly. His tone, due in part to Atco engineers and old vinyl, was fantastic: clean, punchy, agressive. The first time I hear him (1970?) he was playing his ric through a line of ampegs. I then hear him a year and a half later, and he had a Dan Armstrong Lucite bass, through the ampegs. He sounded SO good, and I was SO young, that I had bought an Armstrong within a week.
(I never liked it)

I have read that he has some very serious issues now.

Allmanfan456 · #5 04-25-2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jerry

I was a big Captain Beyond fan when they came out and still revisit the first album from time to time.

Yeah I love Captian Beyond too. There so great!

Allmanfan456 · #6 04-25-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by So Low Bass

Lee Dorman was my first favorite bass player, with Iron Butterfly. His tone, due in part to Atco engineers and old vinyl, was fantastic: clean, punchy, agressive. The first time I hear him (1970?) he was playing his ric through a line of ampegs. I then hear him a year and a half later, and he had a Dan Armstrong Lucite bass, through the ampegs. He sounded SO good, and I was SO young, that I had bought an Armstrong within a week.
(I never liked it)

I have read that he has some very serious issues now.

Yeah man its sad no one gives him the credit he deserves.

Really? What kinda of issues?

Lazylion · #7 04-27-2009, 04:47 PM

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Really? What kinda of issues?

I searched a bit. It seems he's had heart trouble the last few years. I found a story about some folks having a festival to raise funds for a heart transplant for him. That was in California in 2007. Also found a site claiming that a lineup of Iron Butterfly featuring Dorman and Ron Bushy is/will be touring in 2009. So maybe he got the new heart?

RobJ · #8 04-27-2009, 05:13 PM

Loved Lee's playing back in the day. Apparently IB is touring with Lee and Ron. Very cool.

http://www.ironbutterfly.com/tour.php

Allmanfan456 · #9 04-27-2009, 07:00 PM

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I searched a bit. It seems he's had heart trouble the last few years. I found a story about some folks having a festival to raise funds for a heart transplant for him. That was in California in 2007. Also found a site claiming that a lineup of Iron Butterfly featuring Dorman and Ron Bushy is/will be touring in 2009. So maybe he got the new heart?

Wow hopefully hes okay!

Allmanfan456 · #10 04-27-2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RobJ

Loved Lee's playing back in the day. Apparently IB is touring with Lee and Ron. Very cool.

http://www.ironbutterfly.com/tour.php

Dang I wish I was near there! Id love to see Lee Dorman.

Bassgrinder77 · #11 04-27-2009, 07:08 PM

I'm Dancing Madly Backwards (On A Sea Of Air) and swimming in a Raging River of Fear but I Can't Feel Nothing.

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I was a big Captain Beyond fan when they came out and still revisit the first album from time to time.

Barkless Dog · #12 04-28-2009, 06:29 AM

The Youtube footage of them playing was really cool after so many years.

The Golden Boy · #13 04-28-2009, 09:21 AM

What kind of bass is he playing on the "Inna Gadda Da Vida" album cover? Looks kind of like a Mosrite...

RobJ · #14 04-28-2009, 12:11 PM

Yeah I think it is a Mosrite. I'd have to dig up the album from my archive to be sure, it's been a long time since I looked at it.

Bassgrinder77 · #15 04-28-2009, 01:03 PM

Looked like a Mosrite.
I read in Hammer Of The Gods that when Zeppelin opened for Iron Butterfly that Bonham/Zep laughed their asses off during Ron Bushy's solo.
A young and hungry Zep opening for the huge, famous and "heavy" Iron Butterfly is a funny thought.

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What kind of bass is he playing on the "Inna Gadda Da Vida" album cover? Looks kind of like a Mosrite...

The Golden Boy · #16 04-29-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bassgrinder77

Looked like a Mosrite.
I read in Hammer Of The Gods that when Zeppelin opened for Iron Butterfly that Bonham/Zep laughed their asses off during Ron Bushy's solo.
A young and hungry Zep opening for the huge, famous and "heavy" Iron Butterfly is a funny thought.

For whatever it's worth- that drum solo is iconic, regardless of if Bonham could have done it "better."

As an aside, Ringo snatched the parts from that drum solo for his drum solo in "The End" off Abbey Road- Which, as I recall seeing/reading in an interview, made Ron Bushy very proud.

Allmanfan456 · #17 04-29-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bassgrinder77

Looked like a Mosrite.
I read in Hammer Of The Gods that when Zeppelin opened for Iron Butterfly that Bonham/Zep laughed their asses off during Ron Bushy's solo.
A young and hungry Zep opening for the huge, famous and "heavy" Iron Butterfly is a funny thought.

I personnally think Ron Bushy is better then John Bonham. H*ll I think musicianship wise there better. I mean Lee Dorman is insane! They were so ahead of their time.

Allmanfan456 · #18 04-29-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy

For whatever it's worth- that drum solo is iconic, regardless of if Bonham could have done it "better."

As an aside, Ringo snatched the parts from that drum solo for his drum solo in "The End" off Abbey Road- Which, as I recall seeing/reading in an interview, made Ron Bushy very proud.

Thats a great solo! I knew the first time I heard it it seemed familiar.

Bassgrinder77 · #19 04-29-2009, 11:08 PM

Heck yeah, Inna Gadda Da Vida SMOKES anything Zeppelin did. That's a confirmed fact.
Zeppelin just didn't have the intricacy and subtlety of Iron Butterfly.
Bonham could only DREAM of pulling off Bushy's bass drum work in the Gadda Da Vida solo.

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I personnally think Ron Bushy is better then John Bonham. H*ll I think musicianship wise there better. I mean Lee Dorman is insane! They were so ahead of their time.

JimmyM · #20 04-29-2009, 11:16 PM

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For whatever it's worth- that drum solo is iconic, regardless of if Bonham could have done it "better."

Know what's funny? When I saw IB in 80, Ron Bushy wasn't there, and they had this dude that absolutely smoked a drum solo...great chops, great feel...took maybe the first few seconds of the original drum solo and went off it completely, and killed.

Or so I thought...I bumped into a few buddies after the show and they hated him. I asked them why, and they said, "Because he didn't do the solo that's on the record." I told them, "That's being an artist and not trying to copy someone else's thing." One of them says, "I don't give a **** about that. I wanted to hear THAT SOLO!"

I learned a lot about the difference between playing music and the music business that night