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05-03-2011, 03:23 PM
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Search 'Tomas Haake and Dick Lovgren'.
Fans will have most probably have seen this, but if you haven't, check it out.
You MUST see this. The second half is just awesome. |
05-04-2011, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Tituscrow  Dammit YouTube link not working so can't post links!
Search 'Tomas Haake and Dick Lovgren'.
Fans will have most probably have seen this, but if you haven't, check it out.
You MUST see this. The second half is just awesome. | Anyone know what Lovgren tunes to? |
05-04-2011, 10:02 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NW England | | | Not sure. I remember watching his roadies fiddle with his Warwicks just before showtime, but couldn't see the display on the tuner.
But man, can those two groove... |
05-04-2011, 12:29 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: USA, Warner Robins GA | | | Thomas Haake is such a machine. He plays so effortlessly live. It blows my mind. |
05-04-2011, 12:36 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2011 Location: Shrewsbury | | | they tune from low to high F# B E A D G B E
the bassist doesnt bother tuning down to F#, that would just sound like a fart so he has a 5 string tuned low to high B F# B E A |
05-04-2011, 12:38 PM
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Endorsing Artist: HCAF | | Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The Woodlands, TX | | | Medium to Large fan here, depending on mood.
Not positive on tuning but I know Fredrik and Marten both are on Ibby 8'er, so if that's in standard tuning, that's at least a low F#.
However with a good setup, low F# on bass isn't that tough. I've tried it a few times when we go to drop B in my band and works fine. |
05-04-2011, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TombassCaton they tune from low to high F# B E A D G B E
the bassist doesnt bother tuning down to F#, that would just sound like a fart so he has a 5 string tuned low to high B F# B E A | On a Jazz Bass, yeah probably.
On something HQ/decent, like I have, not so much... |
05-04-2011, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mebusdriver Thomas Haake is such a machine. He plays so effortlessly live. It blows my mind. | Amen to that. Utterly mesmerising....how he counts all those beats in his head whilst gliding around his kit without breaking sweat is just a joy to behold. Coupled with Lovgrens perfectly timed low end punches to the gut, live music doesn't get much better for me... |
05-04-2011, 01:28 PM
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I think he's pretty similar to (Chris) Adler (or vice versa) in the way they play that kind of music with what seems no effort/function at all. Granted LoG is a little more straight-ahead, but he still brings the pain plenty good for modern thrash.  |
05-04-2011, 01:31 PM
| | | | I'm a big fan of the band. I am not, however, a big fan of the way they deal with the bass guitar. His live sound has no presence. It just blends in with Fredrik and Martin. Dick is a quite accomplished bass player, but that is what Meshuggah wants, so that is what he does.
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05-04-2011, 01:34 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northwest Indiana | | | They play in F standard. The bass tunes up a half step from EADG to match the guitars at the same octave. On older material, before the 8 string guitars, they were tuned B flat standard with the bass an octave under.
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05-04-2011, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by HaMMerHeD I'm a big fan of the band. I am not, however, a big fan of the way they deal with the bass guitar. His live sound has no presence. It just blends in with Fredrik and Martin. Dick is a quite accomplished bass player, but that is what Meshuggah wants, so that is what he does. | Really? Must have been an off night for the sound guy, or have you seen them more than once and thought the same each time?
I've seen them six times and each time it was a crystal clear mix and the bass just killed the place! I know what you mean though. He is clearly a hugely talented bloke and loves what he does. Not aware of any other work he may have done... |
05-04-2011, 02:33 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Stockholm, Sweden | | | Dick Lövgren is one of my absolute favorite players.
Actually not that much in Meshuggah but more in Last Tribe, Time Requiem, Armageddon, and if you like jazz/fusion, Nica Group.
Fantastic player that not really shows in Meshuggah IMO.
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05-04-2011, 02:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: USA, Warner Robins GA | | | Well I've heard Frederik say in interviews that they would play without bass if they could find a way. Whether he was joking or not.... Idk. But ive always loves their bass tones. They've had the best driven bass sounds ever IMO. |
05-04-2011, 09:07 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: peterborough, ont. canada | | | for clarification his 5 string is tuned Bb-f-Bb-Eb-Ab, so he can play older and new material at the same time. I've also heard one of the guitarists say in interviews that they need the bass because it provides such a different tonal thing,(not sure of exact quote but) something like "the bass is the train grinding to a halt tone, without it, meshuggah actually sounds empty". |
05-05-2011, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bassmasta117 for clarification his 5 string is tuned Bb-f-Bb-Eb-Ab, so he can play older and new material at the same time. I've also heard one of the guitarists say in interviews that they need the bass because it provides such a different tonal thing,(not sure of exact quote but) something like "the bass is the train grinding to a halt tone, without it, meshuggah actually sounds empty". | Yeah Nothing springs immediately to mind here...without the bass the entire album would just sound like a brick. |
05-05-2011, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Argali
Yeah Nothing springs immediately to mind here...without the bass the entire album would just sound like a brick.
| Obzen even more so. Not heard a bass tone like that on a metal album before or since. Awesome. |
05-05-2011, 02:00 PM
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Endorsing Artist: HCAF | | Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The Woodlands, TX | | | Just listened to the Alive record.
That's some friggin gnarly tone homedude has going on! |
05-05-2011, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rockstarbassist Just listened to the Alive record.
That's some friggin gnarly tone homedude has going on! | The DVD is even better. Absolute killer start to finish. Lovgren the man. |
05-05-2011, 02:31 PM
| | | | I have been gradually going back into their catalogue and am becoming more & more a fan.
The music is great, but the vocals get monotonous after a while for me.
They could almost be a prog rock band with their syncopated odd meter music, with almost jazz fusion, Allen Holdsworth inspired guitar solos. Yes, great bass & drums.
They really do what they do well and stick to their sound. No ballads here. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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