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06-21-2011, 02:40 PM
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I understand that Prince removed the bassline from "When Doves Cry". Has anyone here ever had the chance to hear that bassline? Or better yet, has anyone tried to create a bassline for it just for fun? I'm going to attempt to create one and post it on youtube. |
06-21-2011, 02:45 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sioux Falls, SD | | | I don't know, but one of my biggest gripes about Prince is that the bass is pretty much buried on a lot of his stuff. And/or lacks imagination, basically just being an octave double of a guitar part.
For supposedly being a very good bassist, The Artist sure never gave the instrument much love in the mix. Radical contrast to someone like Lenny Kravitz where the bass line is never in question. |
06-21-2011, 03:09 PM
| | | | Right on. You have to go to his first 4 records to hear amy prominent bass playing. |
06-22-2011, 02:03 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2011 Location: Japan | | | I very vaguely remember reading an interview with Prince in which he said something along the lines of "(insert bassist's name) is the best bassist in the world. If I couldn't have him on bass, I would just go without bass in my music."
That was maybe in the late 80s/early 90s? I don't remember which bassist he was referring to. |
06-22-2011, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by temag  Or better yet, has anyone tried to create a bassline for it just for fun? I'm going to attempt to create one and post it on youtube. | Back in the '80s, we covered this. It was the last song of the 2nd set. I figured "...great, I will be 1-2 up on you guys at the bar"!
Nope...hadda play.
I de-tuned my "E" doen to "D".
I played this 1/8th rhythm (which matched the kick)-
/1--&----/1--&3&4-/
Notes were-
/G--G----/G--GGED-/
Many others do this also.
I did notice that my friend's '80s cover band with Oteil Burbridge on bass...Oteil did not play...he just danced around & played some random piano stuff. 
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06-22-2011, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jaywa I don't know, but one of my biggest gripes about Prince is that the bass is pretty much buried on a lot of his stuff. And/or lacks imagination, basically just being an octave double of a guitar part.
For supposedly being a very good bassist, The Artist sure never gave the instrument much love in the mix. Radical contrast to someone like Lenny Kravitz where the bass line is never in question. |
Check out:
Lets Work
Lady cab driver
Diamonds & Pearls
Adore
I'm Yours
Some of his more bass featured tracks.
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06-22-2011, 01:34 PM
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One of my faves for playing and tone. |
06-22-2011, 01:43 PM
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06-22-2011, 01:49 PM
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I would love to hear the original tracks of that and "When Doves Cry" just to appreciate the full effect of Prince's decision.
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06-22-2011, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by temag Right on. You have to go to his first 4 records to hear amy prominent bass playing. |
+1
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777-9311, Walk, Wild & Loose, by The Time with prince playing every instrument.
Prince used to be one of the baddest cat's on the planet holding down the bottom. IMHO |
06-22-2011, 02:28 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | The Crystal Ball recordings are the best for Prince on bass IMO. It wasn't tailored to radio play. |
06-22-2011, 03:13 PM
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06-22-2011, 03:21 PM
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06-22-2011, 03:23 PM
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06-22-2011, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bunnykeeper I very vaguely remember reading an interview with Prince in which he said something along the lines of "(insert bassist's name) is the best bassist in the world. If I couldn't have him on bass, I would just go without bass in my music."
That was maybe in the late 80s/early 90s? I don't remember which bassist he was referring to. | I am not sure of the exact date but when Prince converted to Jehovah Witnesses from being a Seventh Day Adventist Larry Graham was his spiritual mentor and is the go to guest on special shows Prince puts on up to this day. As I understand the Revolution broke up in part because the band could not put up with Prince's then new spiritual devotion.
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06-23-2011, 11:46 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central Illinois, USA | | | I've never heard that he removed the bass line, only that he decided he didn't need the lows to be provided by an electric bass for the recording. He was pretty vocal in a Bass Player Magazine interview a long time ago that the instrument providing the bass line (the lowest part of the performance) needs to be an electric or acoustic bass instrument. Sometimes a guitar is all it takes, sometimes voices.
And in that same issue I believe, Rhonda Smith talked about a cool muted bass line she played for "When Doves Cry" live, based on a line Prince came up with during rehearsals for that tour.
John
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06-23-2011, 02:12 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: London, Ontario | | Apparently when he plays Kiss live, there is a bassline - used to have an mp3 with Larry Graham slapping on it live, and here is Rhonda's take on the bassline: YouTube - ‪Prince Kiss Live on Ellen‬‏
I really dig it!
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06-23-2011, 07:32 PM
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Prince is a musical genius. Check out The Stick By The Time. He plays lead bass on that track.
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06-27-2011, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bunnykeeper I very vaguely remember reading an interview with Prince in which he said something along the lines of "(insert bassist's name) is the best bassist in the world. If I couldn't have him on bass, I would just go without bass in my music."
That was maybe in the late 80s/early 90s? I don't remember which bassist he was referring to. | I think thebassist name in question was "Mark Brown" who now goes by
'Brown Mark"
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