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Old 09-10-2011, 10:50 AM
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New Carol Kaye documentary being released

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Very interesting.
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I hope she doesn't take credit for creating the Dragonetti method...
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Old 09-10-2011, 01:43 PM
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I hope she doesn't take credit for creating the Dragonetti method...
Sigh. That didn't take long.....

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I hope she doesn't take credit for creating the Dragonetti method...
Oh, boo....let's go find another thread...
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Oh, boo....let's go find another thread...
Chill out guys. Just joking (I think)...
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Old 09-10-2011, 05:38 PM
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Controversy aside, the woman is the real deal!

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Old 09-10-2011, 07:26 PM
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I'd watch it. She is a huge part of the history of modern popular music.
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Old 09-11-2011, 05:50 PM
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It's a project looking for funding. Hope they raise enough $$ but they have a long way to go...

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Old 09-12-2011, 02:36 AM
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Chill out guys. Just joking (I think)...
Well OK, then. Too many have flogged that ole horse and will again, I'm sure. Thanks.
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It's a project looking for funding. Hope they raise enough $$ but they have a long way to go...

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Would like to see this, too. Hope the money is found.
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Old 09-12-2011, 06:37 AM
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I really like how she downplays the importance of modes. Players today are obsessed with modes. She says quite rightly that the jazz masters of old thought in terms of chords and not scales. My father is one hell of a jazz pianist and he never thinks about modes!
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Just that short clip of her is very interesting. I would love to see more. I'm tempted to make a pledge to the project.

For those of us who just fell off the back of a turnip truck, can someone state briefly what the "controversy" is? If I'm understanding correctly, Ms. Kaye claims to have played bass on a few recordings attributed to other bassists. Do I have that right?

The passing of time clouds the memory for all of us; it seems unlikely she's deliberately exaggerating, more likely she's telling it as she remembers it.

Also I wonder if in a few cases she played "a session" but not necessarily "The Session" that was the golden version for release of certain songs or albums.

Anywho I would really like to see the documentary get made...
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For those of us who just fell off the back of a turnip truck, can someone state briefly what the "controversy" is? If I'm understanding correctly, Ms. Kaye claims to have played bass on a few recordings attributed to other bassists. Do I have that right?
Discussed and analyzed to death in the past.

Regardless of any errors in reporting/memory, the fact remains that she is an important figure in the history of modern music.

Would love to see that movie get made.
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I'd watch it. She is one hellava player!
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Discussed and analyzed to death in the past.
Certainly don't want to offend anyone with a sentence or two recapping all that old info.

Oops, might be too late...
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I'd like to see the project, too. But I also don't think she should intentionally misrepresent who played what, which I believe she does. She's been asked about some of the inconsistencies and remains steadfast she played those parts in dispute, even when evidence contradicts her. I would think any documentary ought to include that controversy if it's to be judged fair and accurate. And whether a subject has been debated in the past or nor, doesn't mean it's not able to be reopened when someone isn't aware of said discussion. Not everybody is omniscient, you know.
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And by the way, the controversy doesn't take away from the fact that's she's one of the best bassists ever, because she is. It just detracts from my personal opinion of her as a person, not a player.
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