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Old 07-02-2007, 06:06 AM
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we will never hear him live I guess.Last night I went to a DT show,mostly for Myung,I though with a bongo,he's finally gonna blow the stage...Let alone blowing the stage his tone was MUD,buried 7 feet down the overall sound of the band,nothing was heard. A big dissapointment for me.Show was great though.
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I wonder why that happens. I guess the distorted guitars are just too much.

I never understood bands that have bassists that are never heard. This happens a lot with metal bands.
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Myung hasn't had a decent tone since the days of using Tung basses. And even then, I can't comment on his live tone.
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:55 AM
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I saw'em live a few years ago and was exactly the same thing, nothing but guitars, vocals and kick drum. . .

Their FOH engineer should be fired.
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:36 AM
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I'll be off topic sorry but. I agree with you,that metal bands have problems with bass sound, I play bass in local Black Metal band and one like a funk/rock,where situation is better but,distor eats bass,so only way to be heard is to clean your sound (scenes form memory,live in n.y.)or go down and deep,budokan is ok.but I've never seen him live,sorry
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Myung hasn't had a decent tone since the days of using Tung basses. And even then, I can't comment on his live tone.
His Tung basses sound absolutely awsome!I wonder why would some one want to change that sound...(money ofcourse )
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:34 PM
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I remember reading that the Tung basses were great to him, but since Tung basses were pretty much just 1 guy who used to work for Michael Tobias, he wasn't able to keep a steady supply and he wasn't in business for very long. Than Yamaha came calling with an endorsement deal and the rest is history...

FWIW, his bass tone on the new album is way better than his last several efforts. I can't speak for his live tone though and they aren't coming to FL, so it looks like I won't be able to speak for his lvie tone anytime soon either :/
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Never was a fan of Myung, great technique but so what? No one can hear him.
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Old 07-02-2007, 11:18 PM
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Yeah I like Dream Theater but just because he acts lifeless and mostly robotic doesn't mean that his tone as to be dull too. The new album is ok although, he should have taken advantage of the heavier riffs by giving his tone a little bit of growl. I mean the uber cheesy riff at the end of Dark Eternal night was basically a Black Label Society riff (Petrucci is hanging out with Zakk Wilde way too much) but the bass still sounded like the same conservatively rounded out tone but played with a pick.
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Myung is amazing, but his newer work isn't on par of what it usually is. I've noticed with on ocassions he gets a really 'clanky' sound coming out of his bass, which can be annoying.
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I saw dream theater and the mix was bad too. But Symphony X played on the same stage, and WOW, they're sound guys had it solid, one of the best live bands I've seen, sound and performance wise. plus lepond cut through the mix and sounded epic
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I saw 'em a week ago, he played with a Yamaha 6 stringer and the Bongo 5. The Yamaha was completely buried in the mix, but Bongo was quite distinct IMO. Maybe it was because I was wearing earplugs though
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Myung is amazing, but his newer work isn't on par of what it usually is. I've noticed with on ocassions he gets a really 'clanky' sound coming out of his bass, which can be annoying.
That "clanky" sound is probably due to his style,he sometimes hits the strings so hard that my wrist hurts even watching it!
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Over the past 2 albums his sound has improved, but it's a far cry from what I like as a bass sound. I saw DT the other day and the sound was not projecting at all.
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I truly really think Dream Theater is one of the most overated bands that I have ever heard. I bougfht systematic chaos, expecting some crazy guitar work with petrucci supposedly being one of the best. I got to say though Im not at all impressed with him or myung.
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I saw them YEARS ago as well as recently when Myung was playing Spector 4 strings and the sound was SOOOO bad at one point he was pointing at his bass and giving the "thumbs up/turn me up sign" like mad.
He literally took off his bass and threw it on the stage during the tune.
The funny thing was, he didn't turn it down when he did it, and you could barely hear the CRASH.

He walked out with another bass and only then could you sorta make him out in the mix.

But even the last time I saw them, I was like "why is he even on the stage??!?"
The kick and low end from the guitars & keys burried him.
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I truly really think Dream Theater is one of the most overated bands that I have ever heard. I bougfht systematic chaos, expecting some crazy guitar work with petrucci supposedly being one of the best. I got to say though Im not at all impressed with him or myung.

you might want want to check out John Petrucci's solo album. He really tears it up
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I saw DT on their tour for Train of Thought.

The bass was muddy low end with amplification that made the rumble on par with an earthquake. I literally wondered if the balcony I stood on would cave in.

Talented musicians to be sure, but the only album I can have a listen to is Images & Words.
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I saw'em live a few years ago and was exactly the same thing, nothing but guitars, vocals and kick drum. . .

Their FOH engineer should be fired.
either that or the FOH guy is doing exactly what Petrucci, the singer, and Portnoy want him to do.
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I truly really think Dream Theater is one of the most overated bands that I have ever heard. I bougfht systematic chaos, expecting some crazy guitar work with petrucci supposedly being one of the best. I got to say though Im not at all impressed with him or myung.
That's a pretty closeminded thing to say if you've only heard one album, and their worst at that.

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