Noel Redding- say what?

[mjac28]

Originally Posted by cloverkeys

I think you will find showing everybody respect regardless of the accomplishments attached to their name will make life much easier for you.

+1000 my point

[mjac28]

Originally Posted by iamthebassman

FYI: My career hasn't eclipsed Vanilla Ice's(for example) but that doesn't mean I need to show him any respect.

This thread isn't about Vanilla Ice it's about Noel Redding a bass pioneer you don't have to use words like lousy in my opinion.

[kbuschmann]

Originally Posted by Rocker949

Noel Redding went to audition for the New Animals ...........

So I've heard Redding say that he left Hendrix because of money issues. And I've heard it said that Hendrix let Redding go as he was looking for 'something else'. Anybody have some veracity on this. Gotta say, BC is by far my preference.

[atomicdog]

Redding's sound on Axis Bold as Love, especially "If 6 Was 9," is amazing. Nothing guitarlike about those heavy bass lines. But I do dig guitar players who turn it on on bass, notably Ron Wood on Jeff Beck's Truth album.

[RCCollins]

When Noel was recruited for the Experience, EVERY bass player was a guitarist-turned bass player. His work on the albums and in concert was rock solid and his grooves really stick in your head. "Are You Experienced" is the album that made me want to play not guitar, but BASS.

I like him on that Randy California album, too.

[corinpills]

I think there's a really beautiful looseness to Jimi's work with his British rhythm section that created a more unique sound than his later work with Billy Cox and Buddy Miles- both great musicians, but Jimi fell into a more traditional soul/ R&B vibe with those guys. To my ears, the material he released with the Experience- particularly the singles- is right in there with prime Cream, Sell Out period Who, some f my favorite sounds. There were only 3 dudes playing, seems silly to under- appreciate one of them.

[shrimpflea]

Originally Posted by corinpills

I think there's a really beautiful looseness to Jimi's work with his British rhythm section that created a more unique sound than his later work with Billy Cox and Buddy Miles- both great musicians, but Jimi fell into a more traditional soul/ R&B vibe with those guys. To my ears, the material he released with the Experience- particularly the singles- is right in there with prime Cream, Sell Out period Who, some f my favorite sounds. There were only 3 dudes playing, seems silly to under- appreciate one of them.

Well said.....I like both bassists playing....different styles and tones but equally great bass players.

[Ric5]

You guys should watch this interview ... http://www.3dentourage.com/425/5string-sg-bass2.htm

[catcauphonic]

Originally Posted by Ric5

You guys should watch this interview ... http://www.3dentourage.com/425/5string-sg-bass2.htm

takes me to a page of the Frankensteined SG Bass ... no interview though

[kurosawa]

Originally Posted by catcauphonic

takes me to a page of the Frankensteined SG Bass ... no interview though

Here's a radio interview: https://soundcloud.com/straight-ahea...with-billy-cox

[RCCollins]

Here's the thing: Billy Cox is no great shakes either. And even the great Bob Babbitt pretty much phoned in his hass lines for the posthumous "crash Landing" lp.

Noel is sounding better and better!

[emblymouse]

Some would call this the 'Adam Clayton Effect'

It is what it was, which can only be perfect.

[Ric5]

Originally Posted by catcauphonic

takes me to a page of the Frankensteined SG Bass ... no interview though

Sorry ... my bad ... here it is ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo-lBnTc3So

[bassist15]

Ive always enjoyed watching the live videos and hearing live recording of the time right before Noel was out of the group. Live , he stretched out a little more. But also you have to look at the band. Jimi and Mitch both were fantastic and played ALOT..to allow this. The bass has to play some super simple stuff. He really held it down while Jimi and Mitch went nuts .
Also there is no comparing Noel and Billy Cox, they are two different players and played in different versions of Jimi's sound

[brianrost]

Originally Posted by Meddle

With all the will in the world I doubt many bassists use 100 watt valve amps through shallow seiled 412 cabs.

Um, how about Jack Bruce, John Entwistle and just about every other British bassist of that era.

[theevilplankton]

Big Jimi fan here, and big fan of Noel's as well.

I'm always over in Ireland, and a couple of years back, made the journey to the area where he lived and played. There's a pub in the town (Clonakility) which he played in for years, and there's a great wall of artifacts as a tribute to him.

Where I live in England is very close to where Noel grew up and started playing. Much of his family are all still around here. Jimi spent quite a bit of time here in the early days as well after Noel joined up as well! A friend of mine's Dad used to throw parties at the time, attended by all of the Experience. Same friend met Jimi quite a bit, and actually attended Noel's wedding reception to his first wife. Noel is still a big name around these parts!

I think his playing in the Experience was spot on - anyone else, and it would not have sounded like it did.

Love the Billy era too, great to hear how the Noel stuff changed so much when Billy took over. Solid - for sure....but what gain there, you lose the wayward abandonment of the Noel era.

As I said, big Jimi fan, and they both do it for me on bass. That they were so different, that makes it all the better.

[bolophonic]

He was Jimi Hendrix's bass player, what else needs to be debated?

[bill reed]

Noel's bass lines were mostly lines that Jimi got him to play.
I remember Chriss Squires saying about playing a gig and Hendrix was the main group and Criss had not heard of them, and he watched them pratice and said, "the bass player can't play and the Lead guitars is telling him what notes to play and where on the fretboard to play them.
then he saw some of the people turning up to watch. The beatles, stones, all the top bands at the time in london, it was only when Jimi started playing he knew why!
but even Billy Cox had to be told what notes to play. watch Woodstock and you see Jimi shouting the notes to Billy.
when you think that Noel was just tossed in at the deep end he did not do to bad a job. remember there was no one playing like Jimi when they started out, playing little clubs and halls all over England and playing 7 days a week too.

[N.F.A.]

Originally Posted by Rocker949

playing bass on albums. Even then, Noel is playing bass on five songs on "Electric Ladyland." I especially like the way he sounds on "Come On (Part One,) and "Burning of the Midnight Lamp." Pretty good bass for a so-called frustrated guitarist.

Are you sure it's Noel playing on Come On (Pt. One)? It sure sounds like Jimi to me, and I had also read or heard it was Jimi on that cut. (Eddie Kramer interview maybe?)

I have played off and on for years in a Jimi cover band and know most of the Hendrix stuff by heart. There are some great bass lines in the Redding catalog, just like Cox has some great stuff. It's common knowledge that Jimi and Chas figured out most of the bass lines and told Noel how to play them. Noel deserves respect in my opinion anyway. His timing was very good.

[Rocker949]

Originally Posted by N.F.A.

Are you sure it's Noel playing on Come On (Pt. One)? It sure sounds like Jimi to me, and I had also read or heard it was Jimi on that cut. (Eddie Kramer interview maybe?)

I have played off and on for years in a Jimi cover band and know most of the Hendrix stuff by heart. There are some great bass lines in the Redding catalog, just like Cox has some great stuff. It's common knowledge that Jimi and Chas figured out most of the bass lines and told Noel how to play them. Noel deserves respect in my opinion anyway. His timing was very good.

I wouldn't bet my life on it, but I'm pretty sure. If it was Jimi they would have said so. Believe me, that isn't Jimi's style at all on that song. It isn't Jimi. Also, I know someone who was around Noel for years. He has heard Noel play bass to the song in person. Anyway, I have to say this may be the last Noel Redding thread I'm posting on here. There is nothing wrong with your post, of course. But this is getting like putting out forest fires here. I have other things to do. If people want to bash Noel Redding, take credit away from him, and all that, I hope they enjoy themselves. Like I said, I really have other things to do and would rather focus my energy elsewhere, unless I see something totally outrageous that I can't keep from responding to. So far, I'm not seeing anything like that.