Noel Redding- say what?

[rockinrayduke]

Originally Posted by N.F.A.

Are you sure it's Noel playing on Come On (Pt. One)? It sure sounds like Jimi to me, and I had also read or heard it was Jimi on that cut. (Eddie Kramer interview maybe?)

I have played off and on for years in a Jimi cover band and know most of the Hendrix stuff by heart. There are some great bass lines in the Redding catalog, just like Cox has some great stuff. It's common knowledge that Jimi and Chas figured out most of the bass lines and told Noel how to play them. Noel deserves respect in my opinion anyway. His timing was very good.

It's Noel. I have a Ladyland boot that has several takes of them going through "Come On", one of them Jimi breaks a string and they talk about it for a minute.

[mellowinman]

I love how people are saying the bass player for arguably the greatest rock power trio of all time wasn't "good."

[N.F.A.]

Originally Posted by rockinrayduke

It's Noel. I have a Ladyland boot that has several takes of them going through "Come On", one of them Jimi breaks a string and they talk about it for a minute.

Thanks for the info. I also have Ladyland boots. I will need to go back and listen to them.

[Trayster2]

Noel Redding's sound in the JHE is why I wanted to play bass.

[N.F.A.]

It's why I switched from guitar to bass.

[PJRL]

Originally Posted by corinpills

I think there's a really beautiful looseness to Jimi's work with his British rhythm section that created a more unique sound than his later work with Billy Cox and Buddy Miles- both great musicians, but Jimi fell into a more traditional soul/ R&B vibe with those guys. To my ears, the material he released with the Experience- particularly the singles- is right in there with prime Cream, Sell Out period Who, some f my favorite sounds. There were only 3 dudes playing, seems silly to under- appreciate one of them.

Well said and if I can add to your point.....I think that's what it is for me with Noel. To me JHE wasn't really about groove, it was a rock bad unlike anything from that time. Jimi, Noel & Mich were fantastic together IMO.

[thunderstation]

How many bass players could keep up with Hendrix?-

[bill reed]

Originally Posted by thunderstation

How many bass players could keep up with Hendrix?-

At that time in the mid 60s i think only Jack Bruce. remember that Jet Harris was said to be the best bass player off the early 60s.
i think that if jack had played with Jimi then the whole feeing of the JHE would have changed too as he would have been singing too.
i think it would have been very open and much more Jazz basses like Cream were.

[bill reed]

Chris Squire of Yes - Meeting Jimi Hendrix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo-lBnTc3So

intresting to listen to him!

[Sartori]

Originally Posted by Rocker949

I don't remember the source, but Mitch (who didn't always get along with Noel) even said at one point that Noel's timing was better than his and that Noel was the timekeeper in the band. For those who say keeping time in a band like the JHE would be easy, well I suppose so if you have a really good sense of timing. Noel's timing was superb, as well as the tone and technique which you mentioned. Lately, I've especially enjoyed listening to the 4CD box set "Winterland."

I love Noel's playing and especially his tone on that.

[Sartori]

Originally Posted by Meddle

I think Redding had one hand tied behind his back thanks to the equipment of the day. With all the will in the world I doubt many bassists use 100 watt valve amps through shallow seiled 412 cabs. Redding had a horrible grindy tone with no proper bass end. I've heard a lot of Hendrix stuff and Redding was always right up in the guitar space sonically. Not sure how Billy Cox was different in that regard.

What you find "horrible," I find "amazing."

[mattbass6945]

who cares? we have two good bass players to listen to and learn from. i know we like to debate all this stuff, but in the end we have some killer stuff to listen to.

[lfmn16]

The root/5th police have hissy fits over his playing. How dare he want to be an actual part of the band!!!

[N.F.A.]

Originally Posted by Rocker949

I wouldn't bet my life on it, but I'm pretty sure. If it was Jimi they would have said so. Believe me, that isn't Jimi's style at all on that song. It isn't Jimi. Also, I know someone who was around Noel for years. He has heard Noel play bass to the song in person. Anyway, I have to say this may be the last Noel Redding thread I'm posting on here. There is nothing wrong with your post, of course. But this is getting like putting out forest fires here. I have other things to do. If people want to bash Noel Redding, take credit away from him, and all that, I hope they enjoy themselves. Like I said, I really have other things to do and would rather focus my energy elsewhere, unless I see something totally outrageous that I can't keep from responding to. So far, I'm not seeing anything like that.

I will confirm what Rocker wrote here about NR playing bass part for Come On Pt. 1. In the Hendrix Sessions book Noel talks about playing this, how the take on the album was the 12th take, etc. So, now I know. For some reason I thought Jimi overdubbed that one himself later, but according to the Hendrix Sessions book, it's Noel!

[bill reed]

some of the bass lines in some Hendrix sounds are really good. i think one of my fav is "hey baby (new rising sun) but I think its Billy Cox that did the bass on it.
here is a bass cover by Katelin Deutsch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8RJN...kzmXa7NRd27yfA

she shows just what nice bass line it is.

[SolarMan]

[Flabass]

Maybe Jimi liked Noel because he would play the lines Jimi wanted and and didn't get into "his own thing." I know if I had the chance, I would have played it exactly the way Jimi wanted.

[Steve Dallman]

I started playing bass at age 16 after playing guitar for two years. (I'll be 60 next month) Noel Redding was a big influence on me, and I always loved his playing. I prefer it to Bill Cox' playing with Hendrix. I've read many, many interviews over the years but there is only one quote I "remember." Redding was asked if he learned anything about guitar from Hendrix. He responded that he had been playing for years and that "Hendrix didn't have to teach him anything." Although hard to discern from a print interview, I didn't detect arrogance in his statement. I could be wrong.

On another related note, I always felt Mitch Mitchell would have been the perfect replacement for Keith Moon after his untimely death.

[Bisounourse]

Originally Posted by SolarMan

Isn't that the bass Kevin Ayers sold/gave to Noel Redding after the JHE tour of the US with Soft Machine?

[Trayster2]

Where is this bass displayed?