Overrated bass players - Page 8

rexspangle · #**141** 10-25-2001, 09:43 PM

I guess some of us on hear could be highly overated after all we hardly get to ever see eachother play.

Honestly though I think when I see bass ads with for instance someone like Tom Hamilton (Aerosmith) promoting the companies products. IMO that is the worst way to overrate someone and it turns me off of their products.

*ToNeS* · #**142** 10-26-2001, 01:18 AM

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Originally posted by hewett

I disagree... Manring hypertunes to at least that
low and maintains "playability".
And musicality.

Manring knows how to make it work - Cheng, quite obviously, does not. that was a pretty stupid point to attempt to start an argument over, btw.

Roxy · #**143** 10-26-2001, 01:38 AM

This is a rushed thing but I feel I have to defend such a great Bass Player like Les Claypool. Music is not a contest, it's people's life and their art.

Whoever reckons Les CLaypool is overrated, obviously is jealous of the fact that they are not as good as him.
He has written so many awesome Basslines. As for keeping a good groove, Les claypool has at least 10 albums, and he has kept a good groove throughout all of them. If you listen to any Primus album and you will learn how to have a good bottom end and create just an unbelievable groove Just listen to Kalamazoo on the Brown album and you will see how to play bass properly.

matteo6dmb · #**144** 10-26-2001, 04:41 PM

how are we to be sure that lessard has a wide range of playability if he never changes his sound?

fretless5 · #**145** 10-26-2001, 08:53 PM

Some nights I am the most over-rated bassist.

eric atkinson · #**146** 10-26-2001, 10:05 PM

haha uh i didn't mean for this to be an anti-blink board (although that's fine with me.) dave matthews is one of my top favorite bands, and that's coo that someone mentioned lessard. but he isn't THAT great. he plays very jazzy fast stuff, but doesn't really ever change his sound.

Sit down and plop a cd in of dave mathews band and lets see how long it takes you learn a few of his songs! He is very complex and some times its very hard to tell untill you sit down and try it~! He is one of my fave bassist! He can also take a very simple bass line and make it just awsome to listen to! He has soul to his playing! You might be able to learn his song but you will never be able to play it like him.

Plus how often does a bass player at his age come around and just blow you away? I cant think of any reason in the damn world that steffan and blink 182 should ever be used in the same thread!

**john turner** · #**147** 10-27-2001, 10:13 AM

why is it that confrontational BS threads like this are what get the most newbies to post? i don't get it.

i mean, who cares if you're going to defend or attack someone's favorite/least favorite player.

i'd much rather learn about the newbies around here with some info about THEM. so how about it, newbies? let's hear about YOU.

oh, and les is fine as long as you keep him off of the fretless

cassanova · #**148** 10-27-2001, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by john turner
why is it that confrontational BS threads like this are what get the most newbies to post? i don't get it.

probably cos alot of them are trolls just waiting for the opportunity to flame something, (just one hypothosis)

i mean, who cares if you're going to defend or attack someone's favorite/least favorite player.

i dont

i'd much rather learn about the newbies around here with some info about THEM. so how about it, newbies? let's hear about YOU.

i agree

oh, and les is fine as long as you keep him off of the fretless

just like Flea

PollyBass · #**149** 10-27-2001, 08:27 PM

Most over rated bassist. Tony Levin....Kidding. i would have to say Paul Mcartny

cassanova · #**150** 10-27-2001, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by matteo6dmb
how are we to be sure that lessard has a wide range of playability if he never changes his sound?

maybe im stupid and just dont get this, but how does not changing your sound around have anything to do with your versatility, range of playablity? you can be great bassist and have lousy tone, or a mediocre one with great tone.

frankencow150 · #**151** 10-28-2001, 02:42 PM

im sorry but blink 182 bassist SUCKS!all he does is play simple notes and boring lines.i mean i can think of 2 songs where he plays good bass.hey,what band is mike watt in?and a good punk bassist is matt freeman from Rancid.(look at my quote) download these songs by rancid to hear is good stuff:
sidekick
axiom
maxwell murder

FunkmastaJ · #**152** 10-28-2001, 05:13 PM

John Entwistle was probably the first ever bassist that actually used the bass for anything other then a background instrument. How many songs with bass solo's can you name that came before the Who?
Jim [/b][/QUOTE

How bout James Jamerson? or even Paul McCartney?

the-lizard-king · #**153** 10-28-2001, 05:32 PM

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How bout James Jamerson? or even Paul McCartney?

Jamerson is a different genre. McCartney was definately a pioneer, but the Who's 'My Generation', with its great bassline and solos come out in 1965. Did the early pre 1965 Beatles have anything like it? Im asking because Im not that familiar with the early Beatles, Im only into their later music. But as far as I know, 'My Generation' was the first real rock song that really made people sit up and take notice as the bass as a seperate entity and not a background instrument. That one song influenced so many other players in regards to how they approached their bass.
Jim

Beefbass · #**154** 10-28-2001, 07:04 PM

John Entwistle was probably my first big influence on bass.
Why is so much time spent talking about how much Flea, or Blink 182's bassist sucks anyway? I say, if you don't like these guys playing, don't waste your time listening to them. Listen to the guys and/or girls you like better.
Just my opinion though.

Tronictq · #**155** 10-29-2001, 12:09 AM

Cliff Burton is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY way over rated

-T

Usul · #**156** 11-01-2001, 02:11 AM

What an interesting thread.I find it hard for anyone to feel Flea,Wooten,Claypool,Entwhistle,etc. are overrated.Of course I have only been playing bass for approx. 15 months,so it does`nt take too much to impress me.

Having seen RHCP in concert,I must say Flea really is a stellar preformer/player.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions...even if they ARE wrong!

matteo6dmb · #**157** 11-01-2001, 08:42 PM

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Sit down and plop a cd in of dave mathews band and lets see how long it takes you learn a few of his songs! He is very complex and some times its very hard to tell untill you sit down and try it~! He is one of my fave bassist! He can also take a very simple bass line and make it just awsome to listen to! He has soul to his playing! You might be able to learn his song but you will never be able to play it like him.

dmb is my all time favorite band. i have all their released cds, and i know how complex stefan's lines are. i couldn't play them at all. and also, versatility has much to do with a person's skill. for instance, if one can make a real edgy sound come out clean and non-sloppy, therefore demonstrating their versatility, and versatility is an important factor in one's skill level. if that person can also play a nice muffled tone, but play it out, that is also great. lessard is usually just the underlying tones under his songs, until he bubbles up with some cool crap once in a while. his crush solo is cool too. but let's see some variation!

**Blackbird** · #**158** 11-04-2001, 11:50 PM

Alec John Such.

Hey, he was "ghosted" by Hugh McDonald on the records. That must say something about his playing...

Andrew Dunbar · #**159** 11-05-2001, 12:00 AM

I don't know man, those dudes may all suck but most of us still have day jobs.

~Andrew

cassanova · #**160** 11-05-2001, 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by Big Wheel
Alec John Such.

Hey, he was "ghosted" by Hugh McDonald on the records. That must say something about his playing...

alec's not all that bad, he did some decent work on slippery when wet and New Jersey IMO