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Old 04-03-2008, 08:54 AM
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Who is greater and/or better in your opinion?
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Apples and oranges. Enjoy them both for who and what they are.
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Agreed.

Regarding overall playing technique, I'd have to pick Entwhistle though. Factor in some mean-ass writing skills, and JPJ pulls ahead. IMO, of course.
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Since making music isn't a competition, this thread is pointless...
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There is no better...only preference.
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JPJ becuase he inspired me...

It was the summer of 1980. I was 15 and heard Led Zep II for the first time. The next day I bought a bass guitar!

Ironically, 20 years later I saw JPJ (on his Zooma tour) and was captivated with Nick Beggs' playing on the Chapman stick and became a Stick player too!

Nothing aginst John Entwistle as he is obviously an outstanding bass player as well!
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Agreed.

Regarding overall playing technique, I'd have to pick Entwhistle though. Factor in some mean-ass writing skills, and JPJ pulls ahead. IMO, of course.
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Entwhistle had a more fluent finger style and tapping to utilizing harmonics (Also his aggressive pentatonic lead lines he was well known for), he could build a "fortress" of a bass line around the "Who". Me thinks he used alot more high end in his sound than JPJ.Wasn't too shabby of a geetar player either.

Keep in mind, JPJ was a studio musician and Musical director/arranger (The rolling stones, Andrew Oldham Orchestra, etc..) before he was in zeppelin though.This is where I believe his song writing skills (not just as a bass player alone) surpass Entwhistle's.

Theres no comparing of the 2, It's all opinion, that's it.

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This is like apples and onions, very different players, one flashy, the other laid back. What they have in similar is the greatness.
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You can't not love them! They're both so different though! It's like comparing the beatles to metallica. so I have to say +1 to BOTH.
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I think JPJ is SOO much more musicaly talented.
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Entwistle and Jones had opposite functions in their respective bands. The Ox really played lead bass to fill the space left by Townshend's rhythm guitar chugging and JPJ held down the groove while Page supplied pyrotechnics on top. Very different roles.
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I think JPJ is far more 'musically talented" but as bassists gotta love 'em both! But I'll love JPJ a bit more! ;-)
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