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08-21-2008, 09:27 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Metro St. Louis | | | Patitucci on a Sadowsky Playing Jamerson
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlCLYYhTRw4&NR=1
The playing is nice but not mind blowing. It is just interesting to see JP back in the day on a early generation Sadowsky. The bass sounds great, btw. 
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08-21-2008, 09:33 AM
|  | Bald Headed Rooster | | | | | The bass sounds great not a fan of the drummers style though..he sounds like a cheesy drum machine. Great bass tone though |
08-21-2008, 09:36 AM
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Endorsing Artist: Kohlman Bassworks | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hampton Roads, Virginia | | | Wow, that was so un-Motown like! And so un-Jamerson sounding. I guess they couldn't do an actual Motown groove due to copyright infringement since they were selling this video. Patitucci is still a really good player though! |
08-21-2008, 09:37 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Los Angeles | | Ok, so you want mind blowing playing
here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8CDtEVNFNc
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08-21-2008, 09:42 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marathon Man | | Note the subtitle on the video, he's not playing like James Jamerson, it's James Jaimerson. Must be a different person.  |
08-21-2008, 09:52 AM
| | | I remember that instructional video from John. It's actually pretty good. Man, can Weckl suck the groove out of everything or what   That is about as 'funk-less' as anything could ever be played 
The first time I ever saw John P. play bass was in St. Louis years ago when he was touring with David Sanborn. It was in the early 80's if I remember correctly, and he was thumpin' all those Marcus Miller lines on a 4 string J type instrument (not sure what brand). He sounded good. It was quite a shock to see him a couple of years later playing a 6 string Smith with Chick! |
08-21-2008, 09:56 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marathon Man | | | On the first Electrik Band album I heard John playing on I much prefered the sound of his jazz bass to his Ken Smith sound! |
08-21-2008, 09:59 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Madison, WI. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by DWBass  Wow, that was so un-Motown like! And so un-Jamerson sounding. I guess they couldn't do an actual Motown groove due to copyright infringement since they were selling this video. Patitucci is still a really good player though! | Ditto. Much like Stanly, I prefer John on upright. His electric bass guitar tone is way too bright for my taste. |
08-21-2008, 10:35 AM
|  | The older I get, the better I was. | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pasadena, CA | | | Meh. Didin't do much for me. Sounded like a "Motown-esque" canned backing track. Bass tone is okay, but not at all like JJ.
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08-21-2008, 10:48 AM
| | | That bassline was so un-Jamerson like in it's content that I wonder if John really was influenced by him like he says.
And yet he plays the guitar lick from "My Girl"..... 
....and for Christ's sake, they couldn't spell "Jamerson" correctly??
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08-21-2008, 10:50 AM
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Sorry.
You can't get Jamerson "tone" with a Sadowsky Jazz.
Where's the P-bass, and flats, Baby? |
08-21-2008, 10:51 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marathon Man | | | Tone aside, I just thought the playing was flat and stiff. John isn't the man for groove imo. It had none of the juicy, funky feel that Jamerson had. However, I'll throw my hat in saying I much prefer the sound of jazz basses overall compared to P's. |
08-21-2008, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Mojo-Man
Sorry.
You can't get Jamerson "tone" with a Sadowsky Jazz.
Where's the P-bass, and flats, Baby? |
Yeah, it's the same with the other examples John gives in that video: Paul Jackson, Chuck Rainey, etc. The intent is great but the tone and feel is not.
I don't mean to bag on John, because I love his playing on his own records. It's just because he's so great on everything else that this falls short. |
08-21-2008, 11:07 AM
| | Dry and Heavy | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Swiss Alps | | | Instructional indeed, as it shows how much groove and feel (or the lack thereof) can make or break a certain kind of bassline. I also hate to rag on others' playing but this is really disappointing. There are so many approaches to making a line swing without necessarily copying Jamerson's style, but this manages to miss them all. |
08-21-2008, 11:07 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Northern Ontario | | | I agree, I don't hear alot of "Motown" in that playing at all.
And far from JJ's killer tone. |
08-21-2008, 11:15 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Metro St. Louis | | | I like JP's tone on that clip. It is not appropriate for the Jamerson feel, but it is a nice, active Jazz sound, IMO.
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08-21-2008, 11:18 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marathon Man | | | It's a nice tangy sound. I'd much rather hear it on a fusion record though. |
08-21-2008, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 76Dub The bass sounds great not a fan of the drummers style though..he sounds like a cheesy drum machine. Great bass tone though | haha, yea, and weckl's mullet aint workin' for me either!
i think JP's version is ok tho. i mean, cmon, he's trying to cop jamerson!
but one of the better jamerson lines i've heard on an instructional tape is definitely jerry barnes' rendition on his funk licks tape: 
and i still play that lick! actually, this is THE video that got me started on bass all those years ago. well worth picking up.
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08-21-2008, 11:39 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: US | | | I love Patitucci in a jazz/fusion context, but that Motown thing is not happening, IMHO. Mainly his town is too twangy because of the light roundwounds and low action, and Weckl's drumming is not helping either -- too rigid and little groove. Again, IMHO and as someone who has coped a few of Patitucci's lines.
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08-21-2008, 12:16 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Diego, CA. | | | If that was the first time I heard motown, I'd never want to hear it again. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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