Peter Hook's Closer tour

bunnykeeper · #1 09-20-2011, 05:02 AM

Just wondering if anyone else out there is a Peter Hook fan. I'm hoping to see him doing Closer at the Metro Friday night, right after the Hawks game.

Tractorr · #2 09-20-2011, 05:24 AM

I am a huge Peter Hook fan. I don't think that he gets the credit he deserves for two reasons. First, many people think of New Order as an electronic group. Secondly, some of the New Order bass parts are insanely easy, but some of them are incredibly inventive and catchy. Besides New Order was not about virtuoso musical performances anyway.

Hope I get to see him play some day.

Have a great time!

iamthebassman · #3 09-20-2011, 08:06 AM

Huge Hooky fan. They're currently not scheduled for anywhere near me, but I do have The Light's Unknown Pleasures CD and it sounds fantastic. His son plays the bass parts, with Hooky joining in too when not busy singing.

bunnykeeper · #4 09-23-2011, 06:46 AM

The show is tonight, and I've got my ticket. I'm just a bit concerned... when you said

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Originally Posted by iamthebassman

His son plays the bass parts, with Hooky joining in too when not busy singing.

you did mean onstage, right? I was looking forward to seeing him play bass, not sing.

The last time I saw him live was in '87, on the Substance tour.

iamthebassman · #5 09-23-2011, 08:08 AM

If you don't already have it, get their live CD, it's awesome.
Yeah, I have no idea how much Hooky plays live with the new band, in all the videos I've seen he always has a bass on but rarely plays it if he's singing(he does the lead vocals). Son sounds great tho'. Please give a review of the show, they're currently not planning on coming anywhere near me.

Check this out:
PeterHookAndTheLight's Channel - YouTube

Stev187 · #6 09-23-2011, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bunnykeeper

The show is tonight, and I've got my ticket. I'm just a bit concerned... when you said

you did mean onstage, right? I was looking forward to seeing him play bass, not sing.

The last time I saw him live was in '87, on the Substance tour.

I'll be there tonight, and I'm taking my son who is a huge Peter Hook fan. Hooky's son Jack plays the bass parts so Peter can focus on singing. Peter does have a bass the whole time, and it works--check out recent YouTube clips.

Reviews from this tour have been good. Should be a great show.

--Steve

Stev187 · #7 09-23-2011, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Stev187

Hooky's son Jack plays bass the bass parts so Peter can focus on singing. Peter does have a bass the whole time, and it works--check out recent YouTube clips.

Oh... Peter and Jack talk about it in this interview clip. Peter Hook is a very nice guy. Can't wait for the show.

--Steve

heliotropic · #8 09-23-2011, 08:32 AM

I saw him on the Unknown Pleasures tour last year and it turned out much better than I expected. As has been said he's on vocals and does "lead bass" type stuff, I don't think he can really play and sing at the same time. He sounds closer to Ian Curtis than I thought he would as well. If he came back to Philadelphia for this tour I would have no hesitation about going again.

bunnykeeper · #9 09-23-2011, 12:51 PM

Just got an e-mail from the Metro:

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Dear Advance Ticket Buyer,

Thanks for supporting Metro. We would like to offer for you to bring a guest for free to 9/23/2011 Peter Hook & The Light show. So for every ticket you purchased you are allowed to bring a guest for free. So print out this email and present it with your advance tickets to get your guest in for free. Thanks and see you at the show.

-Metro

I guess ticket sales weren't very good in Chicago. Here I was worrying it'd sell out, so I paid the extra $6/ticket and bought them online.

Stev187 · #10 09-24-2011, 06:43 AM

I got the same email. It was still pretty packed. My son got to play with Peter and the band at the soundcheck and sit with Billy Corgan in the balcony! Peter Hook is the nicest guy. What a GREAT show!!!!!

Effectsiation · #11 09-27-2011, 07:19 AM

Awesome! Love Peter Hook, I was at the 9/21/2011 show @ the 9:30 Club (Washington, DC) for the "Closer" tour and also saw his "Unknown Pleasures" tour last year.

For anyone interested in the gear, he only had a couple pedals and they sat at the back of the stage:

Boss TU-2
Electro-Harmonix Clone Theory (His old vintage one)
Line 6 DL-4

His son had a full (5) pedalboard of Boss bass pedals though.

I took pictures and will get them developed soon.

Stev187 · #12 09-27-2011, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Effectsiation

For anyone interested in the gear, he only had a couple pedals and they sat at the back of the stage

We noticed this, too. Both Hooky and Jack were playing through SVTs w/ 8x10 cabinets. In other photos from the tour you can see different gear, so I'm sure that they are not hauling that stuff with them (backline). Owen played through Jack's rig. Check it out:

Owen Plays with Peter Hook & The Light - YouTube

Jack broke a string during the soundcheck and during the show (he ducked backstage and got a black Fender P-Bass with a maple board). Their sound guy was fantastic.

Great show. Don't miss it if they come near you.

--Steve

lunarpollen · #13 09-28-2011, 12:31 AM

That's weird, he broke a string during the first song at the San Francisco show too... I wonder what's up with that...

IPA · #14 09-28-2011, 09:03 AM

Does PH play bass? Whenever I see vids from his solo shows, he just wears the bass, but I never see him actually play it.

pudgychef · #15 09-28-2011, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by IPA

Does PH play bass? Whenever I see vids from his solo shows, he just wears the bass, but I never see him actually play it.

lol - not even a multi-page thread to read....

I mean where could one possibly find this info addressed and answered more than 4 times.......

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Originally Posted by iamthebassman

If you don't already have it, get their live CD, it's awesome.
Yeah, I have no idea how much Hooky plays live with the new band, in all the videos I've seen he always has a bass on but rarely plays it if he's singing(he does the lead vocals). Son sounds great tho'. Please give a review of the show, they're currently not planning on coming anywhere near me.

Check this out:
PeterHookAndTheLight's Channel - YouTube

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Originally Posted by Stev187

I'll be there tonight, and I'm taking my son who is a huge Peter Hook fan. Hooky's son Jack plays the bass parts so Peter can focus on singing. Peter does have a bass the whole time, and it works--check out recent YouTube clips.

Reviews from this tour have been good. Should be a great show.

--Steve

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Originally Posted by heliotropic

I saw him on the Unknown Pleasures tour last year and it turned out much better than I expected. As has been said he's on vocals and does "lead bass" type stuff, I don't think he can really play and sing at the same time. He sounds closer to Ian Curtis than I thought he would as well. If he came back to Philadelphia for this tour I would have no hesitation about going again.

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Originally Posted by Stev187

We noticed this, too. Both Hooky and Jack were playing through SVTs w/ 8x10 cabinets. In other photos from the tour you can see different gear, so I'm sure that they are not hauling that stuff with them (backline). Owen played through Jack's rig. Check it out:

--Steve

Dublin-Bass · #16 09-29-2011, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by IPA

Does PH play bass? Whenever I see vids from his solo shows, he just wears the bass, but I never see him actually play it.

Yes, but only upper register notes. He freely admits himself that he can't play standard "in the Pocket" Bass. He's unique really, I don't know how anyone could get away with that!

Stev187 · #17 09-29-2011, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dublin-Bass

He's unique really, I don't know how anyone could get away with that!

Check out the pull quote on the cover:

"I'm not a normal bass player, I know that!"

Yep. He said so himself. I think this is mostly due to the style of music Hooky has played (and helped develop, really) through his career. UK post punk was very bass driven, and he does play a more traditional role in the JD recordings. That said, his lines are often the "hook" of the song (pun intended), and this was increasingly true in NO when a lot of the bottom end was covered by synth, which was normal for the dance-oriented music of that time. If you look at current acts like LCD Soundsystem (one of the tracks spinning just before The Light took the stage was from their last record) or Hot Chip show this lineage. Bass guitar is used as bottom end, but also melodically, and sometimes not at all--right in the same song. So it's more flexible. Again, I think Hook gets a lot of credit for this. All the parts Jack played during the shows where The Light plays JD songs were written and first performed by Hook. While they're not "in the pocket," they certainly are rock/post-punk bass guitar parts. I think I remember reading that Hook was influenced more by Jean-Jacques Burnel than Duck Dunn or James Jamerson.

So I think people "get away with it." LCD and Hot Chip are just a couple of examples of acts I've seen do it live. If your sound owes any debt to post punk and 80s, bass is more a "job" than an "instrument."

--Steve

Barkless Dog · #18 09-29-2011, 12:16 PM

A true bass innovator & highly discintive tone, one of the most important bass players to push the bass to new places & in a commercial band to boot!