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Old 01-04-2013, 09:57 PM
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Phil Lesh Appreciation Society: Enter the Philzone...


(Photo by Jay Blakesberg)

Welcome to the Talkbass Phil Lesh Appreciation Society, the home of all things Phil. Feel free to post about tone, theory, technique, instruments, gear, shows, photos, setlists, experiences, the Grateful Dead, ANYTHING... as long as it pertains to Phil in some way.


(photo by Jay Blakesberg)


Phillip Chapman Lesh was born March 15, 1940 in Berkely California. He began playing the trumpet when he was fourteen years old, having grown up being exposed to jazz greats such as John Coltrane and Miles Davis. Lesh enrolled at UC Berkeley to become a music major, but he and a friend, Tom Constanten, quickly became appalled by the music department's tendency to discourage individual creativity.

Midway through his first semester at Berkeley, Lesh dropped out of college. Lesh enrolled himself in composer, Luciano Berio's class at Mill's College - studying avant-garde composition and electronic music - where he was finally given the opportunity to compose his own music. The following summer, Lesh returned to California where he met Garcia and Pigpen in Palo Alto. Once, in Kepler's bookstore, Lesh heard Garcia play banjo and Lesh asked him to play on the radio show that Lesh was an engineer for. Quickly, the two became friends.

One night in 1965, Lesh, Garcia, and Weir all happened to be at the same party in Palo Alto. While in Garcia's car, smoking pot, Lesh mentioned that he was interested in taking up an electric instrument, maybe the bass. Lesh attended the Warlocks next gig and was invited to play bass with them. After playing a few more gigs, the combination of talent became indelible.
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Phil circa 1965 w/The Warlocks (photo by Herb Greene)


Phil w/ his Alembic modified Gibson EB3


Phil w/ his Alembic modified Guild Starfire "The Godfather/Big Brown." Also pictured are his McIntosh 2300's and Fender Dual Showman stack (photo by Stephen Barncard)


Phil w/ his Alembic Osage Orange "Mission Control" and McIntosh 2300's in front of "The Wall of Sound" (photo by James R.Anderson)


Phil's current rig: Modulus Quantum 6 TBX and Meyer Sound cabinets (photo by Dylan Carney)
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:59 PM
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Guild Starfire prior to modification ("Big Red"):


After:


Inside the Alembic Osage Orange:


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Old 01-04-2013, 11:00 PM
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:01 PM
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PS I think that last shot is the one I scanned from the piece of the 35mm film I got with my GD Movie order.
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:02 PM
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Edwin, I already had #2 reserved for you.

Phil Lesh Appreciation Society:
1. spacebassed
2. edwinhurwitz
3. bassman10096
4. PaulMacCnj
5. Zootsuitbass
6. MtJam
7. MrBEAR
8. FretlessMainly
9. StrangerDanger
10. JFMusic
11. DJ Bebop
12. BluesWalker
13. TwentyHz
14. bassRunner
15. Basshappi
16. Musicphan
17. Philonius
18. RDagBasses
19. Nathan Levine
20. bmb73
21. HolmeBass
22. twhitedc
23. RCCollins
24. N.F.A.
25. Bassman8416
26. TigerInATrance
27. Passinwind
28. sven kalmar
29. kbodonne
30. micgtr71
31. ChrisPbass
32. joe vegas
33. Todd GT5
34. Big Brother
35. Dave Klausner
36. OOTB68
37. walkinbluez
38. MLysh
39. Rev J
40. jhuss88
41. baba
42. preside
43. zfunkman
44. StephenR
45. geeza
46. BoxofRain
47. sleepy_monkey
48. shakman
49. The Bartender
50. Modulicious
51. Slowburn
52. conebeckham
53. jcpassport1
54. Dee-man
55. oldleftybass
56. Popps
57. EMF
58. Harpo61
59. Mound of Sound
60. enjoytheband
61. mhandley16

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Old 01-04-2013, 11:03 PM
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Very cool. Sign me up! Good pix. Lots of pictures and info here:

http://alembic.com/club/messages/411...tml?1350759984
and here: http://alembic.com/club/messages/411...tml?1343432062
and here: http://alembic.com/club/messages/393...tml?1298407199
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:11 PM
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Great Thread! Please sign me up.
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:10 AM
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I am not a fan of the Grateful Dead but I have always had tremendous respect for Phil Lesh. Both he and Jack Cassidy have probably contributed more to the early advancements in bass electronics and amplification than any two other bassplayers but have received little in the way of recognition for their pioneering efforts.
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:23 AM
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The following is the transcript of a letter written to Grateful Dead manager Danny Rifkin from Warner Bros. exec Joe Smith regarding the recording of "Anthem of the Sun":



WARNER BROS. RECORDS, INC.

December 27, 1967

Mr. Danny Rifkin
710 Ashbury Street
San Francisco, California

Dear Danny:

Dave Hassinger is back from his New York trip and the tapes are being sent from New York. We plan to release the LP in February and must have all art work in her almost immediately. There is no time for delays or indecision as we must have the package on the market as quickly as possible.

The recording in New York turned out to be very difficult. Lack of preparation, direction and cooperation from the very beginning have made this album the most unreasonable project with which we have ever involved ourselves.

Your group has many problems, it would appear, and I would believe that Hassinger has no further interest or desire to work with them under conditions similar to this last fiasco. It's apparent that nobody in your organization has enough influence over Phil Lesh to evoke anything resembling normal behavior. You are now branded as an undesirable group in almost every recording studio in Los Angeles. I haven't got all the New York reports in as yet, but the guys ran through engineers like a steamroller.

It all adds up to a lack of professionalism. The Grateful Dead is not one of the top acts in the business as yet. With their attitudes and their inability to take care of business when it's time to do so would lead us to believe that they never will be truly important. No matter how talented your group is, they're going to have to put something of themselves into the business before they go anywhere.

Recording dates have been firmly fixed for January 3rd and two days thereafter. We expect that you will be on hand to complete this drawn out project and get the art work going. Your artistic control is subject to reasonable restrictions and I believe that the time and expense involved along with your own freedom has been more than reasonable. Now let's get the album out on the streets without anymore fun and games.

Best regards,

(Signed)

Joseph B. Smith


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Old 01-05-2013, 12:43 AM
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I am not a fan of the Grateful Dead but I have always had tremendous respect for Phil Lesh. Both he and Jack Cassidy have probably contributed more to the early advancements in bass electronics and amplification than any two other bass players but have received little in the way of recognition for their pioneering efforts.
Very true, most folks don't realize just how much of an impact the Grateful Dead had on the way we hear music today. Particularly their pioneering efforts in concert sound/line array systems and bass tone shaping. Several of the companies that came out of the scene have become industry leaders - Alembic and Meyer Sound probably being the biggest two. We likely wouldn't be enjoying the great live sound we do at concerts today if it wasn't for the Grateful Dead constantly pushing the envelope and striving for improvements.

would you like a number, Basshappi?

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Old 01-05-2013, 12:44 AM
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In on the "and"

Love me some phil,,, first bassist I ever noticed.
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Old 01-05-2013, 01:30 AM
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The Story of "Box of Rain":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_fEzl5S0hE

"Box of Rain" (Studio Version):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4SqDx1vi4c

An interesting note, Phil Lesh did not play bass on the studio version of "Box of Rain" (American Beauty), it was played by Dave Torbert (New Riders of the Purple Sage). Phil did, however, play acoustic guitar on the track.
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:06 AM
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Please sign me up for this, too! Phil has been a huge musical influence for me for many, many years.

Thanks for creating this society!
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:37 AM
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I'll take a seat on this trip please.
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:10 PM
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I'm not normally interested in joining the clubs around here, but I'll certainly make an exception in this case. One of the most original and creative musicians of all time and someone who has an uncanny ability to hold the whole band on a string for as long as he so desires; finally choosing the most opportune time to let go of that string and release the whole monster to do as it will.

I don't dig Phil because I'm a bass player, I'm a bass player because I dig Phil.

While his best work is in the live recordings (which is the case for the whole band for the most part), check out the note choices in the intro to this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQs22Kt-vZk
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:41 PM
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I'll take lucky number 9. FOTM was the first song I learned on bass. Phil Bombs are teh best.
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:47 PM
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I'm not normally interested in joining the clubs around here, but I'll certainly make an exception in this case. One of the most original and creative musicians of all time and someone who has an uncanny ability to hold the whole band on a string for as long as he so desires; finally choosing the most opportune time to let go of that string and release the whole monster to do as it will.

I don't dig Phil because I'm a bass player, I'm a bass player because I dig Phil.

While his best work is in the live recordings (which is the case for the whole band for the most part), check out the note choices in the intro to this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQs22Kt-vZk
Well Said. Counting out that 7 for "Estimated Prophet" is a trip, isn't it.
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Old 01-05-2013, 05:18 PM
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