Pino Palladino 5:15 solo

pjennings424 · #1 03-31-2010, 08:38 AM

The Who played their masterpiece Quadrophenia last night for the Teenage Cancer Trust and lo and behold Pino had a little 5:15 solo!

Heres the clip, although its barely audible...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vZZUUcgrC0

The solo starts around the 6 minute mark. I hope a higher quality video comes out of it. He was also playing that mystery bass early in the show. As for The Who, I think they sounded pretty good, better than the Super Bowl even.

Gord_oh · #2 03-31-2010, 08:47 AM

i really do like pino.
from what could tell, even in the 720p, it sounded pretty sweet.
+1
the who did sound better than at the bowl.

Exploiter8 · #3 03-31-2010, 08:59 AM

Listening now, gotta love Zak! Pino, yet another muddy sounding bassist that can't be heard past the first ten rows.

X8

CapnSev · #4 03-31-2010, 09:04 AM

I think the person recording though it was Pete soloing still. The camera never hits Pino.

Goes to show you how much people know/pay attention to bass.

Tim C. · #5 03-31-2010, 09:56 AM

I've watched all of the videos and the show looks like it was great. Here's hoping to a tour!

corinpills · #6 03-31-2010, 02:17 PM

It's funny how, without the raging bass, the verses of 5:15 hearken back to their earlier hits like "I Can;t Explain" with the call and response vocals.

Huge Who fan, love Pino, just wish he'd kick a little ass in the band and not play like a session guy. Zak has the right idea. It's rather telling that the person who shot the video didn't even realize a bass solo was happening.

Bob C · #7 04-01-2010, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CapnSev

I think the person recording though it was Pete soloing still. The camera never hits Pino.

Goes to show you how much people know/pay attention to bass.

I remember Entwhistle in an interview remarking about how often the audience would all be looking at Pete and cheering when he (Entwhistle) was doing a bass solo. Sad but possibly true that the production crew (in 2010!) is that ignorant too.

hover · #8 04-02-2010, 06:09 PM

Corin, I agree. Pino is a monster player in a helluva pickle. Covetted gig notwithstanding, it's either Roger & Pete telling him to tone down or a fear of the crowd ignorantly accusing him of trying to ape the Ox....

JimmyM · #9 04-02-2010, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hover

Corin, I agree. Pino is a monster player in a helluva pickle. Covetted gig notwithstanding, it's either Roger & Pete telling him to tone down or a fear of the crowd ignorantly accusing him of trying to ape the Ox....

well entwistle was never a dynamic stage presence either, so in that respect pino fits right in. but i, too, think he plays it too session-y with the who.

GregC · #10 04-02-2010, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hover

Corin, I agree. Pino is a monster player in a helluva pickle. Covetted gig notwithstanding, it's either Roger & Pete telling him to tone down or a fear of the crowd ignorantly accusing him of trying to ape the Ox....

This sums up my thoughts as well. I'm a longtime Who fan with nothing but respect and admiration for Pino. But I don't think I could see the Who again without the Ox.

Sartori · #11 04-03-2010, 04:37 AM

Eh, he's a good player.

But this band doesn't sound like the Who to me.

Ezbass · #12 04-03-2010, 04:40 AM

I was speaking with a friend who was at the RAH gig, it seems that Pino wasn't even expecting a solo, there was some technical hitch and Pete Townshend starting nodding at Pino to take a solo to fill the gap (there was some "who me?" "yes you" type wordless conversation going on apparently)

Beginner Bass · #13 04-03-2010, 06:45 PM

I couldn't even here the bass, much less the solo.

ProfGumby · #14 04-03-2010, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Beginner Bass

I couldn't even here the bass, much less the solo.

I blame that on the ****** recording. I am sure the bass rolls through you when at the show. The problem is, Pino should not be expected to be Entwistle in the same way Sammy Hagar should not have been expected to be David Lee Roth. But it happens.

To that point, I agree this is not the Who we grew up with. But should it be? Could it be? No on both counts. Again I point to Van Halen vs Van Hagar or more to the point look at Queen with Paul Rogers for a better comparison. Freddie and John are both gone, but both bands carry on. Both still good, just different.

Now where I might add some criticism. Pino should have tried to cop Johns tone a bit more to "fit" into the sound that is The Who. Or should I say who The Who was when John died.

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/newrep...eply&p=8937733

Listen to the above clip. that is John ( I know, yay for you Prof! Way to go capt Obvious!) But think about it, the recording during Quadrophenia is decidedly John, no doubt but it is not this either -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meu9rERnTf8

Pino is a fantastic artist, but if the Who insists on doing the classics, Pino should (IMHO) try and grab a bit more bit, grit and sonic presence.

Sartori · #15 04-03-2010, 08:01 PM

I agree, to me a huge part of the sound of The Who was that snarling bass sound. And that's not just because I play bass. Both my mother (ha ha, yeah I know, liking the same music as one's mom isn't the coolest), who saw The Who when they were young, and my sister, who also likes that band, agree and turn up the volume for the solo in "My Generation" like lots of people do.

And I'm not saying that Pino should cop Entwistle's sound completely, but a little more growl would fit the band better. Not like he can't do it with the equipment he's already using, either. Just turn up the gain a bit.

Qvist · #16 04-04-2010, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob C

I remember Entwhistle in an interview remarking about how often the audience would all be looking at Pete and cheering when he (Entwhistle) was doing a bass solo. Sad but possibly true that the production crew (in 2010!) is that ignorant too.

Thats because Entwistle looked like a statue when he played man... He could play his ass of, but if you want to be noticed on a stage you gotta move a little!! Pete is all over the stage!

neobassman · #17 04-04-2010, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Beginner Bass

I couldn't even here the bass, much less the solo.

A little handheld videocam is going to have a major low cutoff filter because of wind noise, etc. compromise. Notice how the high bass notes come through and everything else gets muted. So - hard to say much about this particular performance.

What struck me most was the number of bald spots in the audience. (sigh) The good news is they still rock better now than I did when I was 20 (30 years ago).

Meddle · #18 04-04-2010, 06:50 AM

I guess there are good The Who tribute bands out there to fill the gap. What would we do if Pete came out in white boilersuit and SG geetar?

Still something wrong about dudes that age singing about sexually seductive teenage girls...

Back to Pino (excuse my rambling, the coffee kicked in). I think its good that he is dumbed down in the band. Its like a state of mourning within the band that the bass slot is filled just because they need bottom end, not because they need another The Ox. Imagine if they had some 20 year old guy in there thundering away like Entwistle. Either he would have to play perfect Entwistle lines, and get accused of being a copyist, or he would have to do his own thing and get equally criticised for trying to 'steal' the band. Not a fun gig I imagine.