Pino and the RARHOF....

[mtman1]

Does anyone think Pino will make it into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a sideman?

[corinpills]

Honestly, I think you greatly overestimate his public recognition factor.

[Mojo-Man]

Maybe in 20 years when someone goes over his body of work?

The RARHOF has a long way to go if people like.

Leon Russell, Grand Funk, Steely Dan, are not in it.

[Harper]

Steely Dan is (deservedly) in.

Regardless, The RARHOF is a total joke.

[JTE]

Last time I checked, The Ventures aren't in. Why'd they ever put Pino in when about 90% of the public has no idea who he is?

John

[mtman1]

For the same reason James Jameson is in when 90% of the public didn't know who he was. His influence on the songs he has played on. Some of which have of the biggest hits of the last 25+ years.

[KJung]

Originally Posted by mtman1

For the same reason James Jameson is in when 90% of the public didn't know who he was. His influence on the songs he has played on. Some of which have of the biggest hits of the last 25+ years.

Man, Pino isn't even in the same UNIVERSE as Jamerson regarding influence and uniqueness.

If someone like Pino was put in as a sideman, there would be at least another 100 who must be put in with him. No way... good player, but nothing particularly noteworthy compared to dozens and dozens of other wonderful sidemen/women.

[Lichtaffen]

Why is this important?

[KJung]

Originally Posted by Lichtaffen

Why is this important?

That would even be a better question

Seriously, though, it was a pretty big deal when the Hall of Fame created that 'sideman' category, and it is cool that the 'behind the scenes' guys have a shot at getting recognition along with the 'stars'.

[corinpills]

Originally Posted by KJung

Man, Pino isn't even in the same UNIVERSE as Jamerson regarding influence and uniqueness.

If someone like Pino was put in as a sideman, there would be at least another 100 who must be put in with him. No way... good player, but nothing particularly noteworthy compared to dozens and dozens of other wonderful sidemen/women.

Seriously, before we start worrying about Pino, how about guys like Duck Dunn, Jerry Jemmott, Chuck Rainey, Bernard Odum, Tommy Cogbill? And I love Pino- big fan from back in his Paul Young/Pete Townshend days- but there are just so many people who laid the foundation for what bass players do today who need to be recognized.

[JAUQO III-X]

Originally Posted by corinpills

there are just so many people who laid the foundation for what bass players do today who need to be recognized.

That's what a lot of people on talkbass know nothing about.

[rockstarbassist]

No. He (allegedly) is in The Who, but I've yet to hear his bass at audible levels when they've performed, so...

[mtman1]

I wasn't comparing Pino's influence to what James or any other session guys Like Dunn. I just think his playing is so recognizable, especially his fretless stuff from the 80's and early 90's. You can't deny his influence on what he has played on, and that list is pretty impressive.

[greenboy]

Probably about half-off topic, but I remember when D'Angelo's Voodoo came out a bunch of guys were carrying on about the great bass playing. I have to admit that even after ten listens to the CD I didn't find that much notable about the note choices, or the tone, and only the timing/groove phrase placement itself of vague interest.

I thought he was doing more interesting stuff back in the MTV heydays.

[GeneralElectric]

Well he does have a sig model from Fender.

[JimmyM]

listen, the rock and roll hall of fame is a joke. when the ertegun brothers were alive, they and jann wenner controlled who got in. now that the erteguns are dead, jann wenner controls it pretty much by himself, and he loves yoko ono's music so he's clearly an idiot. i hold no more stock in the rock and roll hall of fame's choices than i do some random blogger's choices. clearly, it's a way to sell t-shirts and keychains, nothing more. i've got a handful of friends and co-workers in there, and i'm happy for them that they're happy to be in there, but let's get real.

[JimK]

Originally Posted by greenboy

Probably about half-off topic, but I remember when D'Angelo's Voodoo came out a bunch of guys were carrying on about the great bass playing. I have to admit that even after ten listens to the CD I didn't find that much notable about the note choices, or the tone, and only the timing/groove phrase placement itself of vague interest.

I thought he was doing more interesting stuff back in the MTV heydays.

...thank you, 'cause I agree & I thought I was all alone on this.

[20db pad]

Originally Posted by JimK

...thank you, 'cause I agree & I thought I was all alone on this.

Make it three. That entire record really wasn't that great.

[corinpills]

Originally Posted by rockstarbassist

No. He (allegedly) is in The Who, but I've yet to hear his bass at audible levels when they've performed, so...

Amen. Gets the greatest gig in rock bass- the one where you can really let it fly AND they have Zak Starkey bringing the spirit of Moonie on stage every night- and goes all polite and session guy with it.

I dig Pino, but I LOVE the Who and I miss them having a really driving bass player who could elevate the music.

[jdwilliams]

Originally Posted by corinpills

Amen. Gets the greatest gig in rock bass- the one where you can really let it fly AND they have Zak Starkey bringing the spirit of Moonie on stage every night- and goes all polite and session guy with it.

I dig Pino, but I LOVE the Who and I miss them having a really driving bass player who could elevate the music.

i agree 100%, alot of there music died with John.

I do think billy sheehan did the part well in the cover band him and Paul Gilbert did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zT0OxlBKnU