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10-17-2008, 06:07 AM
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This is our weekly disscussion topic this week but would be keen to hear your thoughts on this - go easy on each other on the responses...no scrapping  Players that sound like they are always on the edge of making a mistake.
The great Tony Williams used to say that one of the qualities he liked most in players is where they sounded like they were "always on the edge of making a mistake". In essence I guess he was referring to those players that push the envelope, venture into the unknown, REAL expression.
We would like to know from you guys which players you think display this quality in their playing. |
10-17-2008, 06:44 AM
| | | | Tony Visconti on Bowie's 'Man who sold the World' LP.
I was just thinking that this morning. Sounds really fluid and intuitive, and a bit like he's gonna **** it up any second! NICE |
10-17-2008, 08:20 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Canton, IL USA | | | I would fit in that catagory... |
10-17-2008, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by behindthenotes  Players that sound like they are always over the edge of making a mistake.... | This is where I typically reside...
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10-17-2008, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by rllefebv This is where I typically reside...
-robert | +1  |
10-17-2008, 10:31 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Canada & USA | | | Billy Talbot? |
10-17-2008, 11:22 AM
|  | Evil Alien | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA | | | I'm always straddling that line... I guess it's in my nature... It's not born from a drive to show off or excel (I like to think of myself as posessing merely moderate chops); it's just a natural instinct for me to keep things on the edge and not cushioned in a safe and comfortable zone.
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10-18-2008, 05:22 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Catskills, New York | | | Tony Levin |
10-18-2008, 05:34 PM
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10-18-2008, 05:36 PM
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10-18-2008, 05:40 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sarajevo | | | I done even more. I crossed that line.
I > all
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10-18-2008, 06:16 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Metro Detroit | | | The Faces Ronnie Lane on Maggie May. He wasn't just on the edge of blowing it, I think he did a few times. |
10-18-2008, 06:28 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marathon Man | | Not that I'm putting Mark King in this category (he always sounds so assured and in control), but the other night when I saw Level 42 live they played Mr Pink so fast it sounded like the wheels were going to come off...but they pulled it off to perfection! Scary!  |
10-18-2008, 09:34 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mill Valley, CA | | Les Claypool. Some would say he crosses that line a few times as well...I'd say if it sounds good it isn't a mistake... 
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10-19-2008, 09:32 AM
| | Evil Alien | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA | | | I made a mistake on a song the first time we played it live (this show was also videotaped) but I've since incorporated the mistake into the song as it actually doesn't sound bad and it kinda fits in the song at that point
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10-19-2008, 09:39 AM
| | | | ...some bop jazz bass players who just seem to be pulled along by the tempo of the rest of the band.... Can't think of any player in specific, but it's usually not the bassist who rushes on bop tunes, as far as I can tell.
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10-19-2008, 09:40 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virginia Beach, VA | | | If you screw up a line, riff, run, whatever....do it again the next time it comes around only with a little more conviction.
"There are no wrong notes". "You're only a half-step away from happiness". "Close enough for jazz". Can't recall the sources but they hold true.
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10-20-2008, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Zooberwerx If you screw up a line, riff, run, whatever....do it again the next time it comes around only with a little more conviction.
Riis | absolutely!
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10-20-2008, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Craig_S The Faces Ronnie Lane on Maggie May. He wasn't just on the edge of blowing it, I think he did a few times. | I love Lane, but I believe Ron Wood actually tracked the bass on that tune.
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10-20-2008, 12:04 PM
| | | Wow - that's an EXCELLENT example. That's a great album too. Kinda like Bowie meets Cream. Quote:
Originally Posted by lude Tony Visconti on Bowie's 'Man who sold the World' LP.
I was just thinking that this morning. Sounds really fluid and intuitive, and a bit like he's gonna **** it up any second! NICE | | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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