The Praise and Worship Band Bassists Club part 22 - Page 19

jmclearnon · #**361** 12-04-2012, 08:33 AM

TBH at the moment its either a fretless or an amp.....

so the amp is the first thing on the list

SoVeryTired · #**362** 12-04-2012, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MissingHighs

you and I have each suffered his influence then.....

Indeed. I got my first 5er from there and I would've walked out with a Dingwall last time if I had a spare £1800! If I wasn't getting a custom build I'm sure it would've been the source of my next bass.

khutch · #**363** 12-04-2012, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SoVeryTired

Ken - all good points, and I hope it didn't come across that I was having a dig at sound men. I've had my issues in the past but our current setup, team and culture is a joy to be part of (most of the time!).

Oh no, not at all. Only the first paragraph was a direct response to something you said and I agreed that it was fairly common situation since it had happened to me. The rest was not directed at you or anyone in particular, just the old guy philosophizing again.

I am getting the impression that my church is quite exceptional. And I am not proud about that or boasting about that. How could I be, I've only been there a little more than a year and none of the church's culture is a product of my efforts. I am still trying to fit in, I am not yet to the point of being able to add anything to it. My point when I say things like this is that with God's help a true unity of spirit and devotion to a common purpose is possible in every church, as this church illustrates. Take heart and work for it because God can produce the same result in your church. One member of our church is fond of saying that it is filled with "extraordinary ordinary people" and this is very much in evidence in the worship team as it is in our church's other ministries. That is God's doing, not ours, and He can do the same in every church.

I actually quite unexpectedly had the "space" discussion with one of our pianists a couple of weeks ago. She came to me during the pre-service prayer time after the morning run through and expressed concern that she was invading my space! I told her not to worry, I would work around what she was doing and then she floored me by saying that she was really quite busy doing other things and wanted to make sure I had her back on the bass line so she could drop it and concentrate on them!! And I see examples like this transpiring constantly between various members of the worship team.

So you all make me feel incredibly blessed as I listen to the discussions about the teamwork issues many of you face. I pray that you all resolve them as I know our God is quite capable of accomplishing that among you.

Ken

MissingHighs · #**364** 12-04-2012, 08:47 AM

harking back to the Jesse Reeves video snippet...

going backwards...

Speakers = not my problem anymore
Amp = not my problem anymore
DI = not my problem anymore
(this is getting boring!)
tuner.... oops!
Bass = have what I want

Right, all I have on my 'need' list is a decent tuner. I've been eyeing the ST-200.

M. <><

SoVeryTired · #**365** 12-04-2012, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MissingHighs

harking back to the Jesse Reeves video snippet...

going backwards...

Speakers = not my problem anymore
Amp = not my problem anymore
DI = not my problem anymore
(this is getting boring!)
tuner.... oops!
Bass = have what I want

Right, all I have on my 'need' list is a decent tuner. I've been eyeing the ST-200.

M. <><

I'm in a similar situation except I have my decent tuner (Planet Waves Tru Strobe pedal) and my bass is in a half-built state. I've read good things about the ST-200 but the Planet Waves does a very good job. I bought it for the Buzz Feiten presets but I've sold that particular bass. It's much more accurate for bass and guitar than my old pedal, almost maddeningly so as a note will never stay precisely in tune. I've had to learn the art of 'close enough'.

a2zbassman · #**366** 12-04-2012, 08:56 AM

The ST 200 is a fantastic tuner, especially with a 5/6 string. Not that I've used a lot of different tuners, but against any of the others I have tried, nothing grabs the low B (or drop A even) faster than the Turbo Tuner. They're a bit spendy but I've never regretted getting mine. Built like a tank too.

jmclearnon · #**367** 12-04-2012, 08:58 AM

SVT what bass you getting made?

khutch · #**368** 12-04-2012, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jay schrader

Is there anyone that knows of a metro Detroit area church that is in need of another bassist for their worship band?

I'm having a hard time finding a church to play at that is ok with me not becoming a member of their church. I already have a home church. I'm just looking fo more opportunities to play.

I'm actually unemployed at the moment and may have to move to the Detroit area to find work since I have experience designing automotive electronics and a lot of that work in the Chicago area has dried up. So I could be asking the same question soon!

But I think in your situation it could be a tough search. My church here in Illinois will let non-members participate in the worship teams but the non-members do have to be regular attenders. Effectively our church has to be your home church whether you are a member or not. And I suspect that this is quite common. Have you thought about forming a band or have you looked for non-/cross- denominational ministries in the area that use musicians?

Ken

SoVeryTired · #**369** 12-04-2012, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jmclearnon

SVT what bass you getting made?

The black limba one.

The specs I'm getting are:

Graft Finn in alder with black limba top
5 string
34" scale neck, rosewood on 3-piece maple
Flat radius (standard)
Alloy side dots (standard)
Hipshot type B 18mm (standard)
Passive - volume, tone, 4 way rotary selection switch
SB single coil in bridge, PB split coil in PBass position

At last update it looked like the attached images, and should be ready within a month or so. Can't wait!

jmclearnon · #**370** 12-04-2012, 09:17 AM

Cool sounds like it is going to be epic!!

SoVeryTired · #**371** 12-04-2012, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jmclearnon

Cool sounds like it is going to be epic!!

And cheaper than a US Fender!

dDaddybass · #**372** 12-04-2012, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by a2zbassman

The ST 200 is a fantastic tuner, especially with a 5/6 string. Not that I've used a lot of different tuners, but against any of the others I have tried, nothing grabs the low B (or drop A even) faster than the Turbo Tuner. They're a bit spendy but I've never regretted getting mine. Built like a tank too.

http://www.tcelectronic.com/polytune-mini-techspecs.asp
Have you looked at this one? Pretty cool

steve_rolfeca · #**373** 12-04-2012, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SoVeryTired

I'm in a similar situation except I have my decent tuner (Planet Waves Tru Strobe pedal) and my bass is in a half-built state. I've read good things about the ST-200 but the Planet Waves does a very good job.

...It's much more accurate for bass and guitar than my old pedal, almost maddeningly so as a note will never stay precisely in tune. I've had to learn the art of 'close enough'.

I found the Planet Waves Tru Strobe annoying, because it would show a lock when it was still far enough off to be audible, at least to me. Checked their specs, and they do indeed have a wider "lock window" than higher-accuracy options like Peterson and Turbo Tuner.

When you have a strobe tuner, you just get used to being able to see the whole "pitch envelope" of the note. Particularly with the ST-200, the fast resolution lets you see the note drift sharp and flat as it decays.

I find this an advantage, as you can tune to specific conditions, ie; if you're playing staccato, up-tempo stuff, you're only interested in the initial attack, whereas if you were playing a lot of sustaining whole notes, you might want to pay more attention to the "tail"...

Product Warning: when the battery went south on my ST-200 recently, instead of just shutting down altogether, it went whacky.

For about thirty seconds, I thought I had a problem with my strings, as the tuner was reporting that the intonation had suddenly gone way off, to the point that a note at the 3rd fret was almost a semitone flat against the open string, and then way sharp by the 5th fret.

MissingHighs · #**374** 12-04-2012, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dDaddybass

http://www.tcelectronic.com/polytune-mini-techspecs.asp
Have you looked at this one? Pretty cool

I've had my fair share of "needle" tuners, and when I saw the strobe tuner (first time ever) it answered a question my brain was trying to phrase at me but never got the words out! i.e. it makes a lot more sense to me than conventional approaches. But thanks for the link.

MissingHighs · #**375** 12-04-2012, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by steve_rolfeca

Product Warning: when the battery went south on my ST-200 recently, instead of just shutting down altogether, it went whacky.

You'd think they would test this sort of thing!

And thanks for the feedback. Now, do I pay silly UK prices, or wait forever for one from the US. Hmm. Maybe there is a seller here that has free shipping AND a reasonable price.

dDaddybass · #**376** 12-04-2012, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MissingHighs

I've had my fair share of "needle" tuners, and when I saw the strobe tuner (first time ever) it answered a question my brain was trying to phrase at me but never got the words out! i.e. it makes a lot more sense to me than conventional approaches. But thanks for the link.

You mau want to look a little closer, it's not a needle tuner.

dDaddybass · #**377** 12-04-2012, 09:46 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGC45f9uiQU
Here's a video comparing the two

jmclearnon · #**378** 12-04-2012, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MissingHighs

You'd think they would test this sort of thing!

And thanks for the feedback. Now, do I pay silly UK prices, or wait forever for one from the US. Hmm. Maybe there is a seller here that has free shipping AND a reasonable price.

Aww i know that feeling

mkandolf · #**379** 12-04-2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jay schrader

Is there anyone that knows of a metro Detroit area church that is in need of another bassist for their worship band?

I'm having a hard time finding a church to play at that is ok with me not becoming a member of their church. I already have a home church. I'm just looking fo more opportunities to play.

Wow, you're just over in Richmond? Wow!

Sorry I can't help you out. We're another church where you have to be a member and fil out the volunteer forms and all. Not too many in our area that use worship teams either.

MissingHighs · #**380** 12-04-2012, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dDaddybass

You mau want to look a little closer, it's not a needle tuner.

Hmm. I'm glad you made me take a second look. And the comparison videos were more than worthwhile. I was put off when I saw the adverts bearing a typical "needle" mode display. Here it is almost the best of both worlds. Quite a bit cheaper, and available relatively quickly.

Anyone else have comments on this TC Electronic Polytuner?