The Praise and Worship Band Bassists Club part 22

[addictedtonoise]

Originally Posted by BlueLine1

Hey .... noise, what an awesome task!!! And HIATW acapella on acoustis bass? WOW!!
I got to play a funkified "Carol of The Bells" with my 2 kids tonight, kinda Trans-Siberian string people group. We rocked it. The MD also played electric and the KB gal is great. Pretty cool Christmas Eve worship.
BTW, what bass you got there? Sure looks sweet. Is it a real neck-through? Have a blessed Christmas everyone!!!
Alan

It's a Schecter Elite 5 Diamond Series. It's neck through. I love it. Definitely an upgrade from the Ibby Soundgear I've had since the 90s.

Unfortunately I'm not getting to play bass at all for this service. I'm actually playing a six string acoustic. We're a small church that just started so we don't have many volunteers...there are only two people that can play any stringed instruments, so a lot of time I have to play electric/lead or acoustic.
We did Oh Come Oh Come Emmanuel for Sunday's service, and I got to play my bass since the other guitarist was playing some arpeggio type picking. Me and the Djembe both came in on the 4th verse and really laid down a groove. It was SWEET. I enjoy getting to play other instruments, but the bass is my thang!

[throughthefire]

Not in concert, of course; it was literally the first time I've had my hands on a double bass!

Went to our churches Christmas Eve concert, and the team on stage was a mix of people, with the bass player being Alex Rowe (used to play with David Archuleta). He was playing his 3/4size german double bass, which he was kind enough to let me mess (I wouldn't call it 'play') on after the concert. Great bloke, and it was fun trying to play a fretless bass that was almost as tall as me!

(note to wife: No, I don't want one!)

His monitoring system was interesting also; he has IEMs running through a channel from the main PreSonus mixer, which he was controlling remotely using his iPad... that made me jealous as well!

Now, if only he was any good on bass, I'd be green with envy.

Oh.. he is. Very. And I am.... extremely.


Merry Christmas everyone!

[steve_rolfeca]

Originally Posted by throughthefire

...Went to our churches Christmas Eve concert, and the team on stage was a mix of people, with the bass player being Alex Rowe (used to play with David Archuleta).

...His monitoring system was interesting also; he has IEMs running through a channel from the main PreSonus mixer, which he was controlling remotely using his iPad... that made me jealous as well!

Merry Christmas everyone!

The Presonus app is called Qmix, and it's really cool. Works via WiFi on iPhone or iPad. Lets you control your own monitor mix on the fly, for all channels.

Very helpful if you have players on the team, or a soundman, who don't maintain consistent levels. I no longer have to fear getting killed by the lead vocals when the singer suddenly decides to eat their mic...

[SteveC]

Originally Posted by steve_rolfeca

The Presonus app is called Qmix, and it's really cool. Works via WiFi on iPhone or iPad. Lets you control your own monitor mix on the fly, for all channels.

We do this at our church. It's amazing!

[4dog]

So P/W is about to record i shouldnt be nervous ive recorded many times before,, usually loooove the process,, problem is there are just 3 of us and im not overly confident in the others ability..this could go badly im praying it dont,, just nervous not sure for me or the others....lol

[5StringFool]

Is the recording live?

[4dog]

Im not sure yet if OD's are gonna be possible yet or not kinda thrown together,, very little planning, thats what bothers me most,, having recorded before this might be hinky.

[MissingHighs]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDcAjpDUQg4 has unlocked something in my (Christmas pudding stuffed) brain

[Dan Knowlton]

Woodshedding on fretless for this Sunday's songs -

• Holy is the Lord
• Today is the Day
• Oh, this God
• Lord, I give You my heart

Not super complicated stuff but great tunes and ones I really like.


Anyway, I did not do the Christmas production this Christmas (I did the last 4), so I am eager to play in a worship setting again!



Dan K.

[4dog]

Yeah,, it was bad ,, the list is endless ,, might try again laaaaaaater.

[MissingHighs]

Originally Posted by 4dog

Yeah,, it was bad ,, the list is endless ,, might try again laaaaaaater.

... to summarise, no-one followed the bassist then? Sigh!

[4dog]

Nah drummer plays to vocals,, click outta the question ,, no OD's ,, fiasco. Oh yeah and engineer does monitor mixes live,,, never recorded much beyond one voice ,, one guitar ,,, he tried and was up front ,,,,,,, once he got there. Exhausting.

[5StringFool]

Wow... that's not a recording session then. I'm not exactly sure what I'd call it.

I can understand the no click part. I've been in on some great sessions where the drums, bass, and rhythm guitar were recorded simultaneously (while the vocalist put down a scratch vocal track) with no click, but wow...

What were you guys using to record the "session".

[SoVeryTired]

What was the intended purpose of this recording? If for evaluating where you're at as a band, it sounds useful. For external purposes... not so much!

I've not done a whole lot of recording. We've laid down a couple of tracks in the past just for fun and it sure shows up any deficiencies you have.

It seems to be an expectation that if the band sounds good in a worship set on a Sunday, you should make an album. My opinion (and it is just opinion) is that if you're recording for an outside audience you should:

- be able to play your parts flawlessly. They needn't be complicated but they must be right.
- sound good. Actually good, not "my mum says I'm good" good. Can you stand to listen to your own recordings?
- have strong material of your own. It's got to be songs that are proven to, or expected to, work with other churches rather than just your own.

If not, carry on what you're doing it and do it well. As good as I think our band sound, I know we're not at the recording stage. Maybe some day, maybe not - we'll see what happens.

[SoVeryTired]

I've been practicing for Sunday and pining for a fifth string again. I tried detuning to get a low D# but it's just too floppy with the strings I've got on. I'd buy a heavier E if I wasn't expecting my new 5er within a month.

Sunday's setlist:

Our God Is Love
Our God
Forever Reign
Power In The Name

[5StringFool]

I'm not so sure I think there is a "recording stage" in this present era of extremely affordable home digital recording. Back in the day it was much more the case since you were spending money in a studio if you were doing multi-track stuff at all.

Imo, if you have the ability to do the recordings yourself, and your band has a reasonable level of musicianship go for it. Learn how to record, the more you do it the better you will get at learning the process and developing a flow with your band. It is necessary to temper expectations to make goals realistic, after all this is practice, you are learning. But the better acquainted you become with the process then less money you will spend if you ever do get to record in a "real" studio, which many times will bill you by the hour.

Just my .02 ymmv.

[SoVeryTired]

Originally Posted by 5StringFool

I'm not so sure I think there is a "recording stage" in this present era of extremely affordable home digital recording. Back in the day it was much more the case since you were spending money in a studio if you were doing multi-track stuff at all.

Imo, if you have the ability to do the recordings yourself, and your band has a reasonable level of musicianship go for it. Learn how to record, the more you do it the better you will get at learning the process and developing a flow with your band. It is necessary to temper expectations to make goals realistic, after all this is practice, you are learning. But the better acquainted you become with the process then less money you will spend if you ever do get to record in a "real" studio, which many times will bill you by the hour.

Just my .02 ymmv.

I agree you can never have too much practice - particularly before other people get to hear it!

By 'recording stage' I was thinking more of 'recording for public sale'. I've definitely heard cases of churches rushing into that.

[mtb777]

Originally Posted by MissingHighs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDcAjpDUQg4 has unlocked something in my (Christmas pudding stuffed) brain

Nice find! Guy kinda talks funny though.......

[4dog]

The recording was my idea ,, its really a long story i just felt the need to help the leader out cause he was alone for a long time,, i felt the call to help him,, pushed his playing along branched his rhythms to newer styles ,, and pushed him on his vocals ,,, hes no Isreal but he uses his voice more expressively,, now i feel the call and its time to move on ,,, just wanted him to have something in his hand ,,, cause it will show him what to go after,,, after i move on.

[4dog]

He needed the help and someone like me to push him,, he was happy doing what he was doing the way he was doing it,, he didnt know any better,, i hope this doesnt sound like an ego thing from me,,, truly not meant to.