The Praise and Worship Band Bassists Club part 22 - Page 41

MissingHighs · #**801** 12-28-2012, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mtb777

Nice find! Guy kinda talks funny though.......

I didn't even realize he was speaking in a more northern patois. Now, if that threw you a bit, be thankful he wasn't a Yorkshire bloke, or Welsh (except the latter would have significantly increased his singing ability!). Then again, he could have had an accent that is economical with the alphabet; ever heard of bu''er (butter), 'T' and 'D' are the most dropped. At least they leave 'B' in else we'd be playing.... 'nuff said

... all this being said by some arrogant foreigner who made England his new home nearly 14 years ago, but brought his accent with him which relates to it's Dutch heritage even though he is from a land from the far south of Africa.

And when I do get jip because of my more forthright ways, I ask the 'offended' party that if they can't get on with me now, what's Heaven going to be like for them!?

steve_rolfeca · #**802** 12-28-2012, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MissingHighs

...Now, if that threw you a bit, be thankful he wasn't a Yorkshire bloke, or Welsh (except the latter would have significantly increased his singing ability!). Then again, he could have had an accent that is economical with the alphabet; ever heard of bu''er (butter), 'T' and 'D' are the most dropped. At least they leave 'B' in else we'd be playing.... 'nuff said

My cousin came to visit from Birmingham (England, not Alabama). I didn't find out until after he'd gone, that none of my friends understood a thing he said. Not. A. Word...

MissingHighs · #**803** 12-28-2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by steve_rolfeca

My cousin came to visit from Birmingham (England, not Alabama). I didn't find out until after he'd gone, that none of my friends understood a thing he said. Not. A. Word...

Ah, you remind me there are some dialects that ADD letters that aren't in the spelling... you meant "Birmingkham" (where does the 'k' come from ?? ).

Thanks for the extra chuckle today

throughthefire · #**804** 12-28-2012, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by steve_rolfeca

I didn't find out until after he'd gone, that none of my friends understood a thing he said. Not. A. Word...

When I came to the US from England, it was weeks before my wifes children stopped turning to her to ask for a translation of what I'd just said...

And I speak the Queens English with Received Pronunciation! (well, the Queen *would* talk like me if she was from Liverpool...)

MissingHighs · #**805** 12-28-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by throughthefire

When I came to the US from England, it was weeks before my wifes children stopped turning to her to ask for a translation of what I'd just said...

And I speak the Queens English with Received Pronunciation! (well, the Queen *would* talk like me if she was from Liverpool...)

I find that hard to believe! Our local chippy is a scouser, and a lovely accent. And that area is the home of, now, who were those four crazy guys who adopted the name of an annoying insect, ah, yes, The Beatles. And look what they did for music (THAT, is a debate all of its own!).

MissingHighs · #**806** 12-28-2012, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by steve_rolfeca

My cousin came to visit from Birmingham (England, not Alabama)

I've just recalled a situation when visiting Canada, and I somehow landed up with the wrong visa in my passport. I was then from London. But this customs official would have none of it! We argued for nearly two hours until I suddenly realized she was completely unaware of the fact that London, Ontario, got its name from that tiny little village, which only, a completely insignificant fact, of course, happens to be the capital of the UK

SoVeryTired · #**807** 12-28-2012, 08:50 AM

Well I thought the bloke in the video spoke proper. But then again I am from that approximate part of the world. It always makes me laugh when I hear Americans talking about a 'British accent' - there's not even such a thing as an English accent.

MissingHighs - I think you're one of many South Africans around these parts! There are quite a few at church (including lead guitar, drums and keys). And unless the Scouse mafia have taken over the running of Milton Keynes chip shops, we must live extremely close to each other!

MissingHighs · #**808** 12-28-2012, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SoVeryTired

MissingHighs - I think you're one of many South Africans around these parts! There are quite a few at church (including lead guitar, drums and keys). And unless the Scouse mafia have taken over the running of Milton Keynes chip shops, we must live extremely close to each other!

Goes by the name of Steve? His award winning shop is in Broughton

SoVeryTired · #**809** 12-28-2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MissingHighs

Goes by the name of Steve? His award winning shop is in Broughton

As am I. (The Broughton part, not the Steve part.)

MissingHighs · #**810** 12-28-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SoVeryTired

As am I. (The Broughton part, not the Steve part.)

To show you how tiny the world is, his son is an item with a girl who works with my wife! Now, I'll PM you only to discover you are a street away or something.

Golly, but we do cover a lot of subjects in this forum!

khutch · #**811** 12-28-2012, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MissingHighs

I didn't even realize he was speaking in a more northern patois. Now, if that threw you a bit, be thankful he wasn't a Yorkshire bloke, or Welsh (except the latter would have significantly increased his singing ability!).

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Originally Posted by steve_rolfeca

My cousin came to visit from Birmingham (England, not Alabama). I didn't find out until after he'd gone, that none of my friends understood a thing he said. Not. A. Word...

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Originally Posted by throughthefire

When I came to the US from England, it was weeks before my wifes children stopped turning to her to ask for a translation of what I'd just said...)

My wife and I had the privilege of living in England for the summer of 1988 on a work assignment. We didn't have much trouble understanding people except for the occasional vocabulary disconnect: I had no idea at first that a "biro" is what we call a "pen"! Our Great Lakes/Chicago accents apparently sounded close enough to one of the common local accents that after we had English hair cuts and a few items of English apparel in our wardrobes many people would mistake us for natives. One store clerk refused our VISA card at first because all the UK VISA cards were issued by Barclays Bank (at the time anyway) and they all looked the same. Ours was issued by some other (US) bank, looked decidedly different, and was obviously a counterfeit. It literally took five minutes of discussion during which we mentioned several times that we were from Chicago before she finally observed "Oh, you are Americans then" and consented to accept our card!

But I would swear that on a few occasions while we were there I saw news interviews on TV with locals from various parts of the UK that were subtitled (in English) for the benefit of those who could not understand their own countrymen's accents! I thought that was hilarious because I thought I had never seen it before. Of course when we returned home I finally noticed that we will do that too sometimes for UK speakers on our newscasts. And then the joke was finally on me when I noticed that we also sometimes do that for Southern US speakers here on the Chicago local stations!

According to some at least the "accent" (known as Geordie) of speakers around Newcastle is the only modern English one that rises to the level of being justifiably called a dialect. This was driven home to me when we visited a bookstore in Newcastle fairly late in our stay in the UK. By then we were quite accustomed to hearing the full range of European languages being spoken by visitors on a daily basis in local shops. That is still fairly rare by comparison in the Chicago suburbs where we live. So I was looking at the books in one aisle and tuning out the conversation of a pair of foreign women in the next aisle over. But something about the conversation nagged at my subconscious and I began to listen to it. Then I noticed that while I could not completely follow the conversation, many of the words were recognizably English and they were in fact Newcastle natives speaking the local dialect!

But, Geordie aside, I can deal with most native and non-native English accents!

Ken

SoVeryTired · #**812** 12-28-2012, 09:37 AM

We were watching a TV programme with a Texan guy on it, where I think I only understood about 20% of what he said - then had to translate it for the kids.

So it turns out me and MissingHighs are close enough that we could probably play a duet if we opened our windows!

MissingHighs · #**813** 12-28-2012, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by khutch

But, Geordie aside, I can deal with most native and non-native English accents!

Ken

Glad you quantified that... deep Glaswegian?

Wonder what we'll speak in Heaven? Aramaic? Without lessons? WOW!

Interesting, all the P&W bass talk has died. Have we caused everyone to scarper? <- very loosely used!

klokker · #**814** 12-28-2012, 10:54 AM

True story:

At CR rehearsal last night, find out we have a new sound guy. After introductions, welcome, prayer etc. he walks up to me and says, "Now....that's a bass guitar right?"

Who knows? Maybe he likes to crank the bass.

velalv · #**815** 12-28-2012, 11:07 AM

On a different note wanted to hear from people who switch churches and
Play on new PW teams. I currently play just about every Sunday, and the occasional home bible
Group with the acoustic bass. I am not terrible, but not very good
Either. Our church is about 40-60 people. I think I am scared of switching
Churches, especially a bigger church, because I won't ever get to play on worship, and it's something I love
Doing and the main reason I Learned to play the bass, since our church did not have a bassist and I wanted to find a way to serve.

Can some people chime in here? Is it easy to slot in at another church? Are PW bassists in relatively short supply at churches? Am I in a really good situation by being the only regular bassist at our church? All comments welcomed.

5StringFool · #**816** 12-28-2012, 11:26 AM

In my experience bassists tend to be in short supply. At my current church there is myself and one other guy that rotate and we have about 300 in attendance every Sunday.

It has also been my experience that in a larger church there are usually more opportunities to serve in other areas.

Jhengsman · #**817** 12-28-2012, 11:37 AM

It depends upon scale. In small churches musicians of all types are in short supply and there is rarely a rotation of backup musicians. The bass chair tends to be the last filled if the members have multiple skills. Being small you don't have the money to lure outsiders and all the other factors which keeps the church small keeps those excess players on rotation 4 of the mega-church.

Being a small church the mercenary can't just show up, he will be noticed and forced into the church life

SoVeryTired · #**818** 12-28-2012, 12:04 PM

I'm presuming you're not just leaving for musical reasons...

It's been a long time since I was the new guy at a church - these days I'm the one trying to help the new guys in the team get settled. But we only have people who are already a settled part of the church so that lessens the culture shock, and we've never hired in any professionals.

I'd second the part about bassists being in short supply. We average 850-900 each week. For the next three months our bass rotation is one guy who's on next week then away for 3 months, two guys who are probably more capable than me but who are primarily WLs and guitarists (and don't own a bass between them)... and me. I'm playing 7 weeks out of 12 on bass.

Jhengsman · #**819** 12-28-2012, 12:43 PM

People move for many reasons, including an opening in a ministry for which they are best suited. Otherwise we will all be in the biggest stadium the population can support and/or be assigned to that specific building like some church organizations assign their leaders and teachers

velalv · #**820** 12-28-2012, 01:15 PM

Fwiw the main reason I am looking to move to another church has to do with distance. I commute an hour and a half
To get to work, and travel a fair bit. The church is 30 minutes away, and I am just getting tired of traveling all the time. The person who lives closest to me is 30 minutes away if
There is no traffic, which is rare in the dc area. I have been attending for 6 years, and am the longest tenured person there besides the pastor, who is a good friend of mine. I feel like I live in 3 different communities in the same area, and I would like to invest more into the community around me, which we are noticing is close knit. I want my kid to be able to go to cub scouts with the kids he goes to church with and awana, and the folks he plays soccer with. We have five churches less than a mile away.

I just would like to serve where I live.