Rant about age and gender - Page 3

CDuff · #41 09-13-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jomahu

well, i play in an all-female band and i can tell you, there are a lot of morons out there.

I don't doubt it...but for some reason, I still believe MOST people are not morons

Zappstorius · #42 09-13-2008, 07:24 PM

Don't be so sensitive, and further more don't ever read youtube comments.

sound of bass · #43 09-13-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DrBone

I disagree. Aesthetics and marketing have been a part of music since the beginning of time. Robert Plant and Mick Jagger owe much to their fashion sense, antics and general off stage presence. Hendrix picked a bass player in large part do to his large afro. Johnny Cash is 'the man in black'. The Beatles were essentially a boy band marketed to the same main stream youth audience that MTV targets today. Saying marketing and looks weren't a part of the music industry until MTV hit is romantic reminiscence.

I agree DrBone, you have to market music to sell it as with any "product" and with all the same old, same old you need a "hook". Imagine having a band member( bassist) that is smokin' hot...to look at as well as playing, or an 11 year old child rocking the house on a bass.....people will talk about it, and more people will go to see it.

E2daGGurl · #44 10-03-2008, 10:57 PM

You know, it's odd though - in my life, way more guys find money to buy instruments, and the time (away from kids and family duties) to play, than girls do. Indeed, sometimes the girls I know spend their money on the instruments for the guys.

Srsly. It wouldn't be such a fluke for a girl to play bass (and there's the sex appeal of it, too - nothing you can do about that, guys) - if more girls had instruments to play.

So be sure to buy your girlfriends instruments and lessons.

There's lots of things people would rather watch a girl do - and that's part of the show business angle, rather than the musical angle. Youtube is show biz.

Syeknom · #45 10-04-2008, 05:24 AM

Splad · #46 10-04-2008, 05:57 AM

Also : http://xkcd.com/202/

Onca · #47 10-04-2008, 09:06 AM

I agree with panda. If I ever see or get linked to a video saying "super awesome sauce by a 11 year old" or whatever, I would just ignore it or close the window. Maybe they should say: "<insert bass-line> by someone who has played bass for 2 months", THEN I will be impressed.

Oh, and I read youtube comments for a good laugh

CrazyArcher · #48 10-05-2008, 12:26 PM

Well, Tal Wilkenfeld is pretty good for a girl, don't see a problem here...

E2daGGurl · #49 10-05-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyArcher

Well, Tal Wilkenfeld is pretty good for a girl, don't see a problem here...

why'd you add "for a girl"? What in the world could you be implying?

Tal is very cute, everyone knows it, it's showbiz. In general, though, most bass players are not that cute - they're just good bass players.

Any thoughts on how Tal ranks, as a bass player? Pretend she's not a girl...

bassrique · #50 10-05-2008, 02:04 PM

Generally speaking, it is harder for a female or a kid to play a full scale bass. Generally speaking, females and kids don't have the arm length or strength that the average adult male has.

Guitar is a different story, but playing bass in first position [especially with an "open hand" or one-finger-per-fret technique], requires some strength.

When I see a kid or woman playing bass well, I know they have overcome that disadvantage, and my hat is off to them.

lunker · #51 10-05-2008, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DayoftheGreek

As for gender, people have to separate genders on loads of things or else no women would have a chance to be recognized.

wow.... just wow

kangia · #52 10-05-2008, 04:44 PM

Did you know that 90% of children around age 5-12 are almost force to play any instrument. Usually, it's the case with lot of other things, where parents force their child to practice more, to be the best and to become something.
You can see that in sport, education, and of course music.
Poor kids. They become machines, and some of them start to hate music. Which is wrong. When you see a kid that age that can compose, or make great music, that's another story....

Playing transcriptions and gaining technique is something everybody can learn...

E2daGGurl · #53 10-06-2008, 07:11 PM

I find playing electric bass easier, strength and stretch-wise, than playing a lot of other instruments. I can't fret an acoustic guitar worth beans, not much better on acoustic bass.

But I think I play electric bass as well as most males my age, with my length of experience (not much). That's one reason I switched (from tenor saxophone and piano). Easier. Doesn't take as much strength.

My family has lots of musicians, both amateur and pro, and it doesn't seem to line up with gender. Or strength or stamina. A lot got better with age, though (like my grandma, who played professionally from her teens and up until her 70's - guitar and fiddle).

Where I live, almost no kids are forced to take music any more, but yes, the ones taking it are sometimes forced. Although, an awful lot of my college age students say they wished they'd been given an opportunity for lessons - we're going to give some free lessons on campus all this week, as a matter of fact. Lots of people interested.

ihassiphilus · #54 10-06-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by E2daGGurl

why'd you add "for a girl"? What in the world could you be implying?

Tal is very cute, everyone knows it, it's showbiz. In general, though, most bass players are not that cute - they're just good bass players.

Any thoughts on how Tal ranks, as a bass player? Pretend she's not a girl...

She's pretty good and has accomplished a fair bit for her young age. Your typical wanky jazz-funk bassist in many ways, though. That's honesty.

I also lol'd when I saw she's about as tall as your typical 12 year old.

E2daGGurl · #55 10-06-2008, 07:42 PM

I think she's pretty good too, and in a style that a lot of younger players aren't really into. She is pretty tiny.

I have a hard time ranking bassists, there are so many really good people. Never a shortage of new people to listen to, that's for sure.

Rob L · #56 10-06-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by E2daGGurl

I have a hard time ranking bassists, there are so many really good people. Never a shortage of new people to listen to, that's for sure.

Agreed.

I do find it pretty impressive to watch any younger kids play music. Even more so if they are into it and show some talent at it at a younger age. I do remember not knowing much about playing at 16 but still wanted to rock!

My little guy, who is 5 loves to bang around on the drums. He is starting to figure it out a bit with some help. His older sisters, 3 of them call it all noise and wish we would be quiet.