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02-07-2002, 10:48 PM
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do you guys know any good rock bassists who don't rely on their guitarists to know what to play? i'm having trouble looking for some influence
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02-08-2002, 05:51 AM
| | | John Paul Jones
John Entwhistle
Paul McCartney
Jack Bruce
Jack Cassidy
David Brown(of early Santana)
Peter Cetera
Harvey Brooks
etc
...all before your time, I assume. 
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02-08-2002, 07:44 AM
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John Paul Jones
John Entwhistle
Paul McCartney
Jack Bruce
Jack Cassidy
David Brown(of early Santana)
Peter Cetera
Harvey Brooks
etc
...all before your time, I assume. | Good list. I would add Allen Woody, Felix Pappilardi, Geezer Butler and Geddy Lee.
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02-08-2002, 07:47 AM
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02-08-2002, 08:27 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Columbus, OH | | Come on guys, all these guys play root  . What sets them apart is their ability to create lines - magic perhaps? or voodoo if you can't figure out what they are doing - beyond the root.
These guys can just plain write bass lines. I can sit down and figure out the theory behind what they're doing, but wow, trying to come up with that stuff sometimes. It blows my mind how someone like McCartney can take something as simple as the A major scale and make somthing that sounds so cool. And don't even get me started on songwriting. That takes writing bass lines to the next level...
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02-08-2002, 09:16 AM
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Come on guys, all these guys play root .
Jim | Ohhh, he meant players who don't stay on the root... Of course, I didn't think he meant they NEVER play the root... He could have phrased it a little better, but the meaning was clear.
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02-08-2002, 09:23 AM
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John Paul Jones
John Entwhistle
Paul McCartney
Jack Bruce
Jack Cassidy
David Brown(of early Santana)
Peter Cetera
Harvey Brooks
etc
...all before your time, I assume. | very good list, i would like to add Billy Shehan to that and Stu Hamm.
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02-08-2002, 09:46 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Camdenton, MO, 65020 | | | ok, first thing, whoever said that John Entwistle and John Paul Jones and all those that we previously mentioned all play root, you need to be pistol-whipped, b/c they don't, and read the first post, he said bassists that don't follow the guitarist, thank you very much. Now, on to the original purpose of this thread.
John Deacon
P-Nut
Flea
Victor Bailey
Dirk Lance
The Earth, Wind and Fire Bassist
Chi Cheng
Nikki Sixx
Tom Hamilton
Just to name a few. |
02-08-2002, 10:12 AM
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ok, first thing, whoever said that John Entwistle and John Paul Jones and all those that we previously mentioned all play root, you need to be pistol-whipped, b/c they don't, and read the first post, he said bassists that don't follow the guitarist, thank you very much. Now, on to the original purpose of this thread.
John Deacon
P-Nut
Flea
Victor Bailey
Dirk Lance
The Earth, Wind and Fire Bassist
Chi Cheng
Nikki Sixx
Tom Hamilton
Just to name a few. | Nikki Sixx? On the same list with Victor Bailey? Hmm...interesting.
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02-08-2002, 10:18 AM
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02-08-2002, 01:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: slightly left of the centre | | | Chi Cheng? Isn't that the Deftones bassist? I thought he was a straight root player. Maybe I've missed something.
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02-08-2002, 01:43 PM
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and dare i say it fieldy! you might not like how he plays but he does play notes and riffs and stuff and it is different to the guitars which is what he asked.
papa roach the bassist does sometimes follow jerry horton but not always and when he doesn't it turns out pretty cool
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02-08-2002, 02:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Austin, TX | | | My two non root influences:
Justin Chancellor- Tool
Ryan Martinie- Mudvayne
Myabe a bit more than "rock"? Dunno.
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02-08-2002, 03:07 PM
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02-08-2002, 03:11 PM
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02-08-2002, 04:39 PM
| | | | FWIW-
I interpretted Vaz' question as wanting guys who don't merely play ROOT MOTION-
(/GG-GG-GG-GG/CC-CC-CC-CC/GG-GG-GG-GG/GG-GG-GG-GG/
/ CC-CC-CC-CC/ CC-CC-CC-CC/GG-GG-GG-GG/ etc.
...now he did say ROCK.
Victor Bailey?
Verdine White(of EW&F)?
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02-08-2002, 05:35 PM
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02-08-2002, 05:44 PM
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Nikki Sixx
| In the Motley Crue songs I'm familiar with, he pretty much always stays on the root/follows the guitar. Can you give some examples of songs where he doesn't? I'm not trying to be critical of your choice, but would truly like to know. I've always considered him to be a fairly mediocre bass player, but would be happy to be proven wrong.
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02-09-2002, 05:40 PM
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the two best rock bassists of all time,
usually never play root
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02-10-2002, 08:04 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Italia | | | playing roots is basic, all the rest is the magic. i'm pretty sure that you have had great names here, JPJ, Jack Bruce. Paul Mccartney, John Entwihstle, Geezer, Felix Pappalardi...personally i apprecite them a lot and i have learnt a lot from Felix Pappalardi, Paul Mccartney, JPJ, Jack Bruce, i have always thought that Mr. Entwhistle is an awesome bass player but he didn't influence me that much. i highly suggest you to take a listen to Andy Fraser of the band Free and the great Dennis Dunaway from the early Alice Cooper albums. they are really great players that can be a great inspiration. If you can consider a non rock player that can help you a lot in this, i highly recommend you Donald Duck Dunn of Booker T nd Blues Brother fame. he's the king. you have had a great call with Allen Woody too. Incredible talented rock bass player, sincerely missed.
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