Roger Waters at the hollywood bowl

Bass. · #1 10-09-2006, 10:15 PM

So i saw Mr. Waters and Mr. Mason perfrom Thursday, Friday and Sunday at the Hollywood bowl and i must say i was a little disappointed that they played everything just about exactly how it was on record.
another thing was from where i was ... not to be disclosed... it seemed as though they were off with the music .. everyone. Did anyone see the show and seem to see/hear this?

roger waters has been one of my favourite bassists always and nick mason is my without a doubt favourite drummer, i am disheartened that he needs another drummer with him though

ZombieGhosTrain · #2 10-09-2006, 11:40 PM

I saw the sunday hollywood bowl show...I thought that the jumbotron lips vs the sound were a bit off, but from the distance I was at I'm not surprised. I really enjoyed the concert, he did a good job, I dug the video screen in the back and the giant DSOTM thing lifted up by the crane.

Philbiker · #3 10-10-2006, 08:33 AM

Nick Mason isn't touring with Waters, just playing a few shows. The other drummer is the regular drummer for the touring Roger Waters band. Cool that Mason played with him for a few shows.

GM60466 · #4 10-10-2006, 11:10 AM

I heard the show in Tinley Park, Illinois a few weeks ago, wasn't anything special compared to the show Gilmour did back in April.
Sure wish those two could settle their differences and get back to making music together.

gm

Bass. · #5 10-10-2006, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GM60466

I heard the show in Tinley Park, Illinois a few weeks ago, wasn't anything special compared to the show Gilmour did back in April.
Sure wish those two could settle their differences and get back to making music together.

gm

i agree. while Roger's show had much more tasteful gimics. All around i think David did a better job.

im more of a roger water's person though so this kind of disappointed me.

these_go211 · #6 10-10-2006, 02:44 PM

i'm psyched for the show tonite in at the shoreline in mountain view!!!!

clayton · #7 10-10-2006, 02:48 PM

I don't now about the show you're talking about, but IMO the best live concert any former member of Pink Floyd has released must be Roger Water's "Live in the Flesh"....that concert is just amazing.

bgmww · #8 10-10-2006, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bass.

im more of a roger water's person though so this kind of disappointed me.

i´m dissapointed because Roger Waters is Lip Synching most of the songs.

Enden · #9 10-10-2006, 11:43 PM

I saw Waters in September and it was fantastic. Great atmosphere.

Enden · #10 10-10-2006, 11:43 PM

I saw Waters in September. Amazing show, great atmosphere.

ABH_bassist · #11 10-11-2006, 02:50 AM

im jealous

pink floyd is easily my favorite band. ive got a large collection from piper all the way to division bell.

the syd barrett floyd was crazy, but genius in its own way.

once waters started writing the band really became the prog band everyone knows. after the split it just wasnt there in my opinion. in either camp. i think rogers is a great songwriter, but without david gilmours guitars its just not quite right to me.
and with gilmour and the rest writing without waters it still just isnt quite it.

i just wish they would reunite.

pdusen · #12 10-11-2006, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bgmww

i´m dissapointed because Roger Waters is Lip Synching most of the songs.

Well, if that's true, under normal circumstances I would agree...

But... after live 8, can you honestly blame him? I don't know if he was sick or what, but he absolutely croaked through that show.

these_go211 · #13 10-11-2006, 11:05 AM

they sounded AWESOME last nite at the shoreline!! played for a lot longer than i thought he would, around 2 1/2 hours.

lipsynching? come on.... he did sound bad at live8 but then again he hadn't been on the road for a few years before that show. he's not trying to hit some of the notes he used to and he has a huge army of backup singers to help with a lot of it now. his voice was not perfect last nite but he sounded good. didn't sound at all like lip syching or auto-tune.

peteroberts · #14 10-11-2006, 12:49 PM

I was at the Shoreline show last night (good night, it took 1 1/2 hours to get into the place from 20 miles away!!).

Anyways, there was DEFINITELY NO LIP SYNCHING going on. He didn't even sing half the time. He had other vocalists who sounded much better than him. When he did sing, you could tell that he was straining; he looked exhausted but enthusiastic.

If it would've been lip synching they would've made it sound better.

The music was awesome; but to tell the truth, I was expecting more 'show' (since Floyd is known for that, plus the price of the tickets). The inflatable pig was about the only prop they used, and it's a much smaller one than the one I saw on the Momentary Lapse of Reason tour.

Still, I'm glad I went...very faithful reproductions of the tunes (11 people on stage plus backing tracks). THe guy who played Gilmour's solos was awesome, he had everything down, the bending style, vibrato...you could tell he did his homework.

these_go211 · #15 10-11-2006, 04:11 PM

luckily the wife and i left from san jose at 5:45pm and were parked in the big dirt lot at 6:20. we wound up leaving right before his encore. no traffic on the way out and took us 25 minutes to get home. but i hear for most it was a complete nightmare to get in and out.

i was impressed with the guy doing the gilmour solos but i think they shoulod have stuck with caron (keyboardist) doing more vocals. on the "in the flesh" dvd he does gilmour spot on. i like caron's voice a lot. i dug snowy white's les paul tone A LOT too.

bgmww · #16 10-11-2006, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by peteroberts

I was at the Shoreline show last night (good night, it took 1 1/2 hours to get into the place from 20 miles away!!).

Anyways, there was DEFINITELY NO LIP SYNCHING going on. He didn't even sing half the time. He had other vocalists who sounded much better than him. When he did sing, you could tell that he was straining; he looked exhausted but enthusiastic.

If it would've been lip synching they would've made it sound better.

The music was awesome; but to tell the truth, I was expecting more 'show' (since Floyd is known for that, plus the price of the tickets). The inflatable pig was about the only prop they used, and it's a much smaller one than the one I saw on the Momentary Lapse of Reason tour.

Still, I'm glad I went...very faithful reproductions of the tunes (11 people on stage plus backing tracks). THe guy who played Gilmour's solos was awesome, he had everything down, the bending style, vibrato...you could tell he did his homework.

I´m glad you peter and the other guys enjoyed the show. I know he´s doing it quite good... i don´t want to argue about this... but it´s the reality.
You didn´t notice him lip synching because he´s doing a fine job... he got used to it... but the most important.. you CAN´T notice if he is LS'ing or not if you are there, at the venue... unless you are 10 feet from him.
He is using vocal tapes from previous tours (Pros and cons and Radio Kaos) and that´s why you can hear a much younger Roger singing songs like HAVE A CIGAR, SHEEP, etc.
The other songs he LSynhcs are Fletcher memorial (vocals from the origianl studio version, except the speech .."ladies and gentlemen please welcome..")
Partially LS on Shine on, and Time.
And also LS on Bring The Boys Back Home.
You still don´t believe ?
Download this video...http://www.icy-blue.com/afg/Roger%20...0A%20Cigar.avi

Get the complete version of Rock in RIo DVD 2006, Cork DVD 2006.. or get a few of all the ROIOS and compare the same songs from different shows.. and you´ll see i´m right.

regards !

peteroberts · #17 10-11-2006, 06:55 PM

I disagree. Maybe he was doing it back then, but he's not now. As I recall, he didn't even sing 'Have a Cigar'.

And like I said before, if they were using vocal tracks, I would've thought they would've used better sounding ones. It did NOT sound like the Roger Waters of old. Rather, it sounded like an old Roger Waters.

these_go211 · #18 10-12-2006, 10:29 AM

i agree with you peteroberts.

he did sing "have a cigar" on tuesday but it certaintly did not sound like a younger roger waters. it sounded like someone who has altered his singing to accomodate the fact that he doesn't have the voice he once did. nothing wroing with that just a simple fact. his voice trailed off during certain songs, he didn't even try to hit certain notes, and sometimes the volume coming from him was uneven. all trademarks of someone who is really singing. and with his army of backup singers it seems like "help" is not really needed in any other form.

it's probably clear we could debate this forever so i'm sticking with my opinion

peteroberts · #19 10-12-2006, 07:20 PM

exactly. Even Paul McCartney did it to some extent (although a much lesser degree). The guy's 64 years old! He can't sing like he could when he was 24...or 34...or even 44

these_go211 · #20 10-13-2006, 11:49 AM

...or even 54.... haha