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02-03-2013, 08:39 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Leeds, UK | | | Subjective list is subjective. |
02-03-2013, 08:51 AM
|  | Say something once, why say it again? | | Join Date: May 2011 Location: Saint Johns, Michigan | | | This is closer to a "Top Ten Heavy Metal Bassists," or "Top Ten Most Famous Bassists" than it is to the "best." There are dozens of bassists who deserve to be in any top ten list (just a few that should be considered: Jamerson, Babbitt, Kaye, Dunn), but obviously that can't happen. Even though it's subjective, this was done by poll, so clearly it is a matter of fame rather than ability. |
02-03-2013, 09:07 AM
| | | | Most Rolling Stone lists are nothing more than popularity and familiarity contests based on little actual criteria by largely uninformed readers. |
02-03-2013, 09:11 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NW England | | | Heck, even the guys on TalkBass can never agree on a definitive 'top ten'...how do you expect Rolling Stone to fare any better?
Fwiw, I'll bet most of you will have never heard of half of MY top ten. Does that invalidate my list, or just mean that we listen to different stuff? |
02-03-2013, 09:26 AM
| | Say something once, why say it again? | | Join Date: May 2011 Location: Saint Johns, Michigan | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Tituscrow  ...Fwiw, I'll bet most of you will have never heard of half of MY top ten. Does that invalidate my list, or just mean that we listen to different stuff? | It invalidates your list, of course. If you don't agree with me 100%, all the time, then you are flat wrong. I don't know why the rest of the world can't get this simple fact straight...  |
02-03-2013, 09:30 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Between Chicago and Milwaukee | | | Rolling Stone magazine SUCKS. Always has.
I ordered Rush tickets years ago and for whatever reason started getting that crap rag in the mail. I used every one of them for starting fires in my backyard pit.
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02-03-2013, 09:35 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wichita, KS | | | Exactly the trainwreck of a list one could have predicted from the thread title.
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02-03-2013, 09:44 AM
|  | Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan | | | The same folks who redacted a bunch of reviews on great bands they slammed like Led Zeppelin want us to take them seriously on music? Seriously I didn't even know that mag still talked about music.
And yeah, top 10 lists are all lame.
Plus, regardless of people's opinions the top 2 are Jamerson and Jaco. In that order. Like them or not there is bass before and after those two people. Each one drastically changing the instrument's role and public opinion. Whoever you put after them is just personal opinion.
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02-03-2013, 09:51 AM
| | | | QUOTE: "IMHO, notable absentees: Chris Squire, James Jamerson, Geezer Butler, Carol Kaye, Steve Harris, John Myung, Larry Graham, Tim Commerford, Matt Freeman, Charles Mingus."
Any top 10 list should have started with Jamerson, Kaye and Graham, and Jaco. Carol Kaye may have had more impact on audiences than any other bass player. From Jazz to Rock to Motown, to TV and movies, but few in the public knew it was her.
Mine would have included Tiran Porter from the Doobie Brothers. He is my favorite and was on all their hits and albums and tours from 1972-1980 (into the Michael McDonald era) and again from
1987-1992.
Sting would be on my list, too. I like David Hungate pretty well, too.
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02-03-2013, 10:21 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Hudson Valley, NY | | | Wow. IMO, Victor Wooten has made about as much a dent on the pop culture RS covers as a mouse fart. Great bassist but not a top tenner in the context of Pop or in the shaping of Pop as we know it today. What about the inventor of slap (or thumpin' and pluckin'), Larry Grahm? He has had more influence over contemporary music than people even realize. The man invented a technique still widely used today. Also, Cliff Burton was a fantastic bassist but I wouldn't consider him a pioneer in the context of heavy metal playing. The omission of Jamerson is just silly. I'm not saying Vic and Cliff don't have a place, but think maybe they should have made the list to include 20 bassists instead. Chris Squire? Seriously? I don't even like him and I know he should be on that list. All my IMO, of course. I'm sure many will disagree with very valid points.
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02-03-2013, 10:32 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ohio | | | Sheehan?? Guess not?
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02-03-2013, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Coon Sheehan?? Guess not? | Sheehan doesn't really have a groove/ feel to him IMO/IME.
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02-03-2013, 10:47 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Hudson Valley, NY | | Quote:
Originally Posted by DiabolusInMusic Plus, regardless of people's opinions the top 2 are Jamerson and Jaco. In that order. Like them or not there is bass before and after those two people. Each one drastically changing the instrument's role and public opinion. Whoever you put after them is just personal opinion. | I'd include John Entwistle as well in your 'before and after' remark. The man had the first recorded bass solo in rock history. He gave the bass guitar a voice and context that had NEVER been heard prior to that, in any genre. He shaped the way we now hear bass in rock, much the way Jaco and Jamerson did for Jazz, R&B and pop in general.
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02-03-2013, 10:47 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 40º 45' 21" north latitude | | | No TINA WEYMOUTH?!?
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02-03-2013, 10:52 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Philadelphia, PA | | | Call me ignorant if you want, but I don't think even Jaco should have a place on the top ten most influential Pop bassists. My list would be all Motown, Stax, and sixties pop/rock musicians. They were well before Jaco's time and they were the ones who transitioned from jazz & blues to radio-friendly pop/rock.
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02-03-2013, 10:58 AM
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02-03-2013, 11:01 AM
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02-03-2013, 11:07 AM
| | | All this proves is that musicians are some of the most easily bothered people around.
Side note: I can see putting KC ahead of Slash even though Slash is clearly a better guitar player. KC had a direct influence on an entire decade. His song SLTS almost single-handedly destroyed hair metal. And by that point it needed to be stopped 
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02-03-2013, 11:08 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | | | | John Entwistle number 1 bassist of all time? Really? I don't think the list is terrible, but it is certainly out of order IMO.
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02-03-2013, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DiabolusInMusic The same folks who redacted a bunch of reviews on great bands they slammed like Led Zeppelin want us to take them seriously on music? Seriously I didn't even know that mag still talked about music.
And yeah, top 10 lists are all lame.
Plus, regardless of people's opinions the top 2 are Jamerson and Jaco. In that order. Like them or not there is bass before and after those two people. Each one drastically changing the instrument's role and public opinion. Whoever you put after them is just personal opinion. | Kaye ahead of Jaco. Your choice is just personal opinion and flawed at that. In my personal opinion.
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