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02-04-2013, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve9842008 I highly doubt they'd be "totally lost". For example, Les doesn't solely play "Primus" or "Primus-like" stuff. He's been doing quite a bit of bluegrass-type stuff lately with MIRV and has played a few SF Jazz Gala sets.
He got his start playing five nights a week with the Tommy Crank Band, which mainly was a R&B/motown/blues type band. Hell, he did the whole death metal thing with Possessed. His solo stuff also ventures pretty far away from Primus, along with the various collabs (Zach Hill, etc).
He's a much more varied player than you're making him out to be. Someone else said he hasn't done much for the instrument as well, which I'd definitely disagree with as well. |
He is a cool player; I'm a fan. He could practice the rest of his life and not be able to handle the Players gig. It doesn't mean he is not a legitimate artist, but he is not in the top one hundred greatest bass players.
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02-04-2013, 11:48 PM
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I gave up rating music (and musicians) years ago... | 
02-04-2013, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Spaldo BB King's guitarist once told me...'For every Stanley Clarke in the world, there's a million of the same, starving'.
I gave up rating music (and musicians) years ago... | BB King's guitarist was exercising the art of hyperbole, and he was full of shinola!
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02-05-2013, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Spaldo BB King's guitarist once told me...'For every Stanley Clarke in the world, there's a million of the same, starving'. | Lucille said that? | 
02-05-2013, 12:40 AM
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02-05-2013, 04:28 PM
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02-05-2013, 04:32 PM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist: Fender Basses, Ampeg, Curt Mangan Strings | | Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: South Shore, Massachusetts | | | As usual, I disagree with most of the list. In my opinion, the only people who are on teh list and actually belong on it are
Paul McCartney
Jack Bruce
John Entwistle
John Paul Jones
Geddy Lee
Should be on the list:
James Jamerson
Carol Kaye
Boz Burell
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02-05-2013, 06:41 PM
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Jaco
Stanley Clark
Anthony Jackson
Will Lee
Marcus miller
Brian Bromberg
Dave Hungate
Our own Roy Vogt
Chuck Rainy
Nathan East
There are many others who could be on this list, but with the exception of Wooton, none of the players on the Rolling Stone list are close to being there. They are all popular artists who had an impact on music, but they are simply not great bass players in the pure sense of the term.
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02-05-2013, 06:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: East Central Wisconsin | | | Rolling Stone's top 10 lists are always shallow and juvenile. It should have been the "Top 10 bassists you kind of like" or the "10 bassists you know the names of." | 
02-05-2013, 06:58 PM
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02-05-2013, 07:00 PM
| | | | Top ten best? Very subjective. Top ten influential would be better, but still subjective. The listed bassists are also of different genres, and that makes it impossible to accurately rank them. | 
02-05-2013, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by king_biscuit He is a cool player; I'm a fan. He could practice the rest of his life and not be able to handle the Players gig. It doesn't mean he is not a legitimate artist, but he is not in the top one hundred greatest bass players. | That's just downright false.
Your opinion greatly differs from mine. We'll leave it at that. | 
02-05-2013, 08:21 PM
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02-06-2013, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bassist30 Who is Rolling Stone to make a Bass List. What is there judging based on first of all. | According to them, the readers. Not that they know a lot about bass players either.
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02-06-2013, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ewe2 These top 10's always annoy me. It's not about technique, it's about taste. And as gifted as Jaco and Wooten and Claypool can be, I don't know any of their songs. It's pretty and impressive, but it's not bassplaying to me. | AMEN!
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Originally Posted by Immigrant I still think it would work, but I'm really, REALLY wrong about most things. | | 
02-06-2013, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Immigrant I still think it would work, but I'm really, REALLY wrong about most things. | | 
02-06-2013, 03:07 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Arkansas | | | Definitely would not put flea as #2...maybe #10?
The whole list could re-order and take away/add a few IMO. | 
02-06-2013, 03:28 PM
|  | Registered User Unofficially Endorsing Genz Benz, Fender, Avatar TB-153 Cabs, Musicman | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Scottsdale Az | | | Not trying to be a jerk at all..but this is a list of mostly rock players. I know guys that play around my city that in terms of musical knowledge and ability that blow almost any of these guys out of water...with the exception of maybe Wooten. These lists are dumb, but I'm talking about players that sit in with my band, and play around town that guys like Flea would just trip on and be like 'can u show me what you did right there?'. Then you have the Ron Carter's, Mingus's, Esperanza Spaldings, etc...who just go over a lot of people who were raised on rock music's heads IMO. These lists are always biased toward the type of stuff white kids like me were raised on, but, at least in my city, the best bass players are usually cats that grew up playing gospel, and put in the work to learn theory like the back of their hands. I'm really not trying to be a jerk, and I know what it's like to think a guy like Flea is a world class bass player ( he is perfect for RHCP and a great player), but Im not joking when I say I know cats that can run circles around him. | 
02-06-2013, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by carlthegroover Many of you might have already seen this list, but I'd like to know what you TB'ers think of it. You agree with this list?
10. Victor Wooten
9. Cliff Burton
8. Jack Bruce
7. Jaco Pastorius
6. John Paul Jones
5. Les Claypool
4. Geddy Lee
3. Paul McCartney
2. Flea
1. John Entwistle
IMHO, notable absentees: Chris Squire, James Jamerson, Geezer Butler, Carol Kaye, Steve Harris, John Myung, Larry Graham, Tim Commerford, Matt Freeman, Charles Mingus.
Here is the page of the list if you're interested: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pi...-time-20110331
So... perhaps a Top 10 falls short, and it should have been a Top 20 or 30? | In reality its imposible to have a top 10 in anything that involves tastes and opinions. I agree with your notable absentees; however . . . even you did not mention Percy Jones who is in MY Top 10. | 
02-06-2013, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by lowJPG Definitely would not put flea as #2...maybe #10?
The whole list could re-order and take away/add a few IMO. | I love Flea as a bass player; however, he does not make my top 10.
In no order:
Stanley Clarke
Percy Jones
Jaco Pastorius
Chris Squire
Bootsy Collins
Larry Graham
Gedy Lee
Victor Wooten
Louis Johnson
John Paul Jones
James Jamerson
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