S/D Basstits part 42: Mostly harmless - Page 40

demon666 · #**781** 01-11-2013, 06:10 PM

It really doesn't take that long to build a cab depending on your back log of orders. Marks a great guy too. I've played with him a couple of times and we we're endorsed together.

dunwichamps · #**782** 01-11-2013, 06:23 PM

School me on these cabs you guys always talk about, the fearful ones?

Corey Y · #**783** 01-11-2013, 06:39 PM

That's a pretty reasonable lead time on any kind of made to order build. I'm sure the actual production time is pretty short, but like with anything else it's all about waiting your turn.

demon666 · #**784** 01-11-2013, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Corey Y

That's a pretty reasonable lead time on any kind of made to order build. I'm sure the actual production time is pretty short, but like with anything else it's all about waiting your turn.

Yep thats most of the wait for things.

Nick I know nothing about the fEarful stuff other than what I've seen/heard in here.

Paging Laz..........

**CL400Peavey** · #**785** 01-11-2013, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dunwichamps

School me on these cabs you guys always talk about, the fearful ones?

There is like 20,000 posts in multiple threads over in the amps forum, and a dedicated form run by the designer Greenboy. Pretty much he set out to design a "no compromises" extended range bass cab. He now has three lines of cabs fEARful, fEARless, and his "greenboy" line. The fEARful plans came first, and they are free. The fEARless and Greenboy cabs are only offered through authorized builders. fEARful is extended range down to low F. fEARless are smaller and lighter and are good down to A. Greenboy cabs are more traditional designs, but they are louder, lighter, and have real design opposed to meeting price point.

Corey Y · #**786** 01-11-2013, 07:04 PM

The only thing I know about Greenboy's cab designs are the general goals/motivations. That he attempts to make each cab tuned to the specific chosen driver (or one of a couple choices), to be as efficient and with as flat a response as possible, with ideal dispersion. I know it involves enclosure volume, internal dampening, port sizing. The specifics elude me, the science of theoretical and applied acoustics is pretty dense. Although I'm certainly happy there are others who get it and happy to make use of their products. Real Traps made a huge difference in my mixing and they provided the guidelines on where to place them in my room.

demon666 · #**787** 01-11-2013, 07:06 PM

Basically Nick, he designs cabs like you design amps.

**bassboysam** · #**788** 01-11-2013, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by demon666

Basically Nick, he designs cabs like you design amps.

Minus the toooobes

Josh Pelican · #**789** 01-11-2013, 07:16 PM

So, they're poor quality cabs made with inferior parts and usually break down within a month?

Mattosaur · #**790** 01-11-2013, 07:18 PM

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So, they're poor quality cabs made with inferior parts and usually break down within a month?

He said Nick, not Wade.

**DethByDoom** · #**791** 01-11-2013, 07:20 PM

Corey Y · #**792** 01-11-2013, 07:20 PM

I understand why not everyone likes the fEARful stuff, but the points he's made regarding how little r&d actually goes in to most cabs is pretty valid. It's on par with Gibson's approach to bridges. Which is "Some of you might be complaining, but people buy it, so why spend the time and money improving it?".

demon666 · #**793** 01-11-2013, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattosaur

He said Nick, not Wade.

Hhahahaahhahahahahahah

demon666 · #**794** 01-11-2013, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Corey Y

I understand why not everyone likes the fEARful stuff, but the points he's made regarding how little r&d actually goes in to most cabs is pretty valid. It's on par with Gibson's approach to bridges. Which is "Some of you might be complaining, but people buy it, so why spend the time and money improving it?".

Well there really isn't alot that goes into cab design by the major companies. "will our new head fit on top of the new cab design?" "Does it look like brand X's cab that is selling right now?" That's probably how it goes.

Josh Pelican · #**795** 01-11-2013, 07:24 PM

****. That turned around fast.

I'm so glad I didn't end up jumping on board.

Corey Y · #**796** 01-11-2013, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by demon666

Well there really isn't alot that goes into cab design by the major companies. "will our new head fit on top of the new cab design?" "Does it look like brand X's cab that is selling right now?" That's probably how it goes.

Yeah, that's about it. Sadly, at some point engineers were designing cabs for specific drivers, then when a new higher powered driver came out or the manufacturer switched suppliers they just tossed them in the same cab. Then a competing company just vaguely copied the dimensions and threw whatever drivers they had in and on it goes. Then it ends up coming down to someone saying "yeah, sounds fine" or just "looks good". Doesn't mean there's only one way to make a cab or that something "incorrect" can't make a sound someone wants, but I appreciate the ethos behind the thoughtful approach to design.

Mattosaur · #**797** 01-11-2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by demon666

Well there really isn't alot that goes into cab design by the major companies. "will our new head fit on top of the new cab design?" "Does it look like brand X's cab that is selling right now?" That's probably how it goes.

Even some boutique cab companies do a similar thing. They design a box aesthetically and toss some speakers in it.

I'd like to see something combining the two. A Dually is enough speaker for all of us(most of us?) but it doesn't have the physical presence of huge cabs on stage.

**CL400Peavey** · #**798** 01-11-2013, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattosaur

Even some boutique cab companies do a similar thing. They design a box aesthetically and toss some speakers in it.

I'd like to see something combining the two. A Dually is enough speaker for all of us(most of us?) but it doesn't have the physical presence of huge cabs on stage.

Come try my '66.

Sartori · #**799** 01-11-2013, 08:29 PM

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Listen to this! One of my favorite albums of 2012: http://summonerboston.bandcamp.com/album/phoenix

Love those harmonies.

Moloch666 · #**800** 01-11-2013, 08:45 PM

Righto, so my old school blackened deathrash band has the CD launch tonight. After playing in bands for a few years, finally found a bunch of dues that were going somewhere and doing things so I'm pretty chuffed this is all happening.

The tracks wont be up online for a bit (despite what the rhythm guitarist wants) so I can't link you guys to streaming or anything, I can link you to the band page (please ignore the ****** spelling, that's the rhythm guitarist again) and the distro that's releasing the CD for us (run by our vocallist/lead guitarist and his girlfriend.

So here's Evil Intent on Facespace and Darklust Distro and while I'm at it - here's the cover artwork done by our drummer.