S/D Basstits part 42: Mostly harmless - Page 42

change-jug · #**821** 01-12-2013, 07:49 AM

I`m pretty stoked. My mail man just brought me Old Man Gloom`s Seminar II on vinyl. And I`ve got the house to myself for the next few hours so I can rock it at the correct doom volumes.

dunwichamps · #**822** 01-12-2013, 08:13 AM

****in freezing in this house today. Working the tourbox pedal PCBs today

OldCrow · #**823** 01-12-2013, 08:20 AM

Just out of curiosity why is everyone assuming that the speakers were swapped in the dually? Solely based on the fact someone didn't like it as much as an 8x10? Or not find it as loud, in a guitar center probably sitting directly in front of it. What if...gasp... Someone just prefers inferior design?

Lazarus.Bird · #**824** 01-12-2013, 08:21 AM

Because the Dually speakers distorted before the fridge, which should be impossible. **** off Geoff.

dunwichamps · #**825** 01-12-2013, 08:22 AM

oh boy

Lazarus.Bird · #**826** 01-12-2013, 08:34 AM

Yeah here comes mr negative nancy with his unjoking sarcasm and sparkling personality.

swspiers · #**827** 01-12-2013, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by OldCrow

Just out of curiosity why is everyone assuming that the speakers were swapped in the dually? Solely based on the fact someone didn't like it as much as an 8x10? Or not find it as loud, in a guitar center probably sitting directly in front of it. What if...gasp... Someone just prefers inferior design?

Have you ever heard a Dually?

I am assuming this is the case because of my direct experience of this cab in the wild. Multiple times, multiple cabs.

I personally prefer my 1212 and it's chameleon-like ability to mimic about any tab tone in the universe, depending on amplification and effects.

But that damn Dually is a force to be reckoned with.

However, there could be damage to the speakers, something internal could be FUBAR. But in any case, that is not the usually experience reported with a Dually Something ain't right...

OldCrow · #**828** 01-12-2013, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

Because the Dually speakers distorted before the fridge, which should be impossible. **** off Geoff.

Did the speakers distort before the fridge or the amp? I got the impression it was two different amps

OldCrow · #**829** 01-12-2013, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by swspiers

Have you ever heard a Dually?

I am assuming this is the case because of my direct experience of this cab in the wild. Multiple times, multiple cabs.

I personally prefer my 1212 and it's chameleon-like ability to mimic about any tab tone in the universe, depending on amplification and effects.

But that damn Dually is a force to be reckoned with.

However, there could be damage to the speakers, something internal could be FUBAR. But in any case, that is not the usually experience reported with a Dually Something ain't right...

No I haven't, but I'm also of the opinion the cab shouldn't be transparent but a part of the system. guitar players have gone down this road before as well, this is nothing new fellas, as much as you want to believe it is.

JoeVictim · #**830** 01-12-2013, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by OldCrow

Just out of curiosity why is everyone assuming that the speakers were swapped in the dually? Solely based on the fact someone didn't like it as much as an 8x10? Or not find it as loud, in a guitar center probably sitting directly in front of it. What if...gasp... Someone just prefers inferior design?

IME, I dimed the volume running two 3015's in my Yamaha. They didn't even break a sweat.

OldCrow · #**831** 01-12-2013, 08:57 AM

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IME, I dimed the volume running two 3015's in my Yamaha. They didn't even break a sweat.

I guess my point is if it's the amp that's breaking up before the speaker cab and it sounds not so good, then maybe it's NOT the speaker cab but the system that sounds not so good, and a screaming tube amp isn't the best match for those designs

Lazarus.Bird · #**832** 01-12-2013, 09:02 AM

So random speculation with no experience on your part is more valuable than people who own the cabs and say they work great with tube heads?

Also, I'm not sure why you're talking about cabs being transparent. The Dually wasn't designed to be transparent.

OldCrow · #**833** 01-12-2013, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

Yeah here comes mr negative nancy with his unjoking sarcasm and sparkling personality.

Bwahaha I missed this, Mr Personality really calling someone out on their personality? You've lost your touch sir.

OldCrow · #**834** 01-12-2013, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

So random speculation with no experience on your part is more valuable than people who own the cabs and say they work great with tube heads?

Also, I'm not sure why you're talking about cabs being transparent. The Dually wasn't designed to be transparent.

Exactly, no one knows if those speakers were swapped or not

But you're absolutely right, what tube amps have you run you're dually with?

The_Janitor · #**835** 01-12-2013, 09:06 AM

Oh boy here we go again...

I think I'll just take my coffee and go over to SRLIVES for awhile...

OldCrow · #**836** 01-12-2013, 09:09 AM

Nah it's cool I'm done, the dually is the best cab ever, they're right I'm wrong, I'm selling my 408 to get one now.

JoeVictim · #**837** 01-12-2013, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by OldCrow

Nah it's cool I'm done, the dually is the best cab ever, they're right I'm wrong, I'm selling my 408 to get one now.

Lol. I think its the magic of the 3015 paired with a great cab design. Maybe laz and toast would want to get together for an experiment? Put laz's speakers in toast's sunn cab. Then tell me it's not every bit impressive as the dually (weight excluded). It should be a little different sound, but I think you'll love the results.

**DethByDoom** · #**838** 01-12-2013, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OldCrow

Just out of curiosity why is everyone assuming that the speakers were swapped in the dually? Solely based on the fact someone didn't like it as much as an 8x10? Or not find it as loud, in a guitar center probably sitting directly in front of it. What if...gasp... Someone just prefers inferior design?

Both heads were SVT CL's. Same settings on both. Gain at 4. Low and high boosts engaged. All tone knobs at noon. Master at noon. SVT loud and clean. Dually starting to distort. Thunder bird with all knobs full on. Even swapped heads to make sure it wasn't the head. Used a 20 ft cable. Listened at five feet and cable fully stretched. It wasn't a matter of like. It performed terribly. If you read my OP you'd have seen I thought the Mesa 412 blew them both out of the water. And we all know how inferior Mesa is...

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Ekimus · #**839** 01-12-2013, 09:33 AM

Hi guys !

Just uploaded new things on the soundcloud, rehearsal recordings made with a zoom H2, so the sound quality isn't the best but it gives a good idea.

Feel free to tell me what you think of it, especially the two jams and the new song that we're working on !

https://soundcloud.com/jagannatha-ba...sal-recordings

Lazarus.Bird · #**840** 01-12-2013, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by OldCrow

Nah it's cool I'm done, the dually is the best cab ever, they're right I'm wrong, I'm selling my 408 to get one now.

No one said the Dually is the best cab ever. No one said it was impossible for someone to not like it. We said, based on his experience, that it sounds like there are some serious mechanical issues with the cab that are highly likely attributed to the speakers being swapped.

But of course you just come in here acting like a dickhead like usual, vomiting on the thread. We get it. You're a hipster. Being an ass on the internet is so cool.