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10-21-2007, 04:14 PM
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Paul Raven was one of my favorite bassists, this is a bummer! http://www.thirteenthplanet.com/raven/
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10-21-2007, 04:21 PM
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Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | Wow, if that picture isn't the picture of someone ravaged by drugs, I don't know what is. I feel bad for the guy dying so young, but he looks like he's had a serious ongoing drug problem for decades. Plus he died of a heart attack, which is also a good indicator when you're 46.
It's a shame...it really is...dude played some wild bass, though. RIP. |
10-21-2007, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JimmyM  Wow, if that picture isn't the picture of someone ravaged by drugs, I don't know what is. I feel bad for the guy dying so young, but he looks like he's had a serious ongoing drug problem for decades. Plus he died of a heart attack, which is also a good indicator when you're 46.
It's a shame...it really is...dude played some wild bass, though. RIP. | What the heck do you know - are you his doctor???? I know you're not...
Show some respect now
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10-21-2007, 08:56 PM
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Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | Dude, you don't have to be a doctor to see it. I thought I was being respectful by not making an even bigger deal out of it. I can see you're taking his death pretty hard. Think how I feel...I'm the same age! |
10-21-2007, 09:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oxnard Shores, California | | | Paul Raven was found dead yesterday from an apparent heart attack at his home in the Swiss border town of Geneva. He was 46. Raven played bass for Ministry, Prong, Society 1, Killing Joke, Godflesh along with his new band Mob Research.
"Paul Raven was the most stand up guy I ever had the pleasure to work with" stated Society 1 frontman Matt Zane. "The thing about Raven is that after working together he made an effort in the following years to stay in touch even if it was just to drop you a quick message to let you know he was keeping an eye on you. That was the coolest thing about him. He respected you and made it a point to let you know that. With everything he has done with his career he didn't have to stay in contact or even admit his involvement with me and my band but that's what separated him in my eyes from all the other musicians I've had dealings with over the years. I have the greatest respect for him. A great musician and a great person. I will truly miss him." |
10-22-2007, 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyM Wow, if that picture isn't the picture of someone ravaged by drugs, I don't know what is. I feel bad for the guy dying so young, but he looks like he's had a serious ongoing drug problem for decades. Plus he died of a heart attack, which is also a good indicator when you're 46.
It's a shame...it really is...dude played some wild bass, though. RIP. | around the time the 2003 KJ album was being recorded Raven had a blog on the band website (although in the end he didn't play on that album)- and he mentioned his doctor warning him about the effects of his lifestyle, and often mentioned giving up drinking.
RIP. |
10-22-2007, 07:29 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Between here and there | | | Great bass player, What a pity, may he rest in peace...
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10-22-2007, 09:14 AM
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10-22-2007, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by The Mock Turtle Regulator | Thanks for the article, there was some great information. I think one thing we can all agree on concern "the ravages of drugs" is that chemical process take out way too many of the greats...it's a damned shame. 
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10-22-2007, 10:23 AM
|  | America's Favorite Hot Dog! | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CHI/NWI | | | Paul played on some of my favorite albums. I'm personally a little crushed by his passing. I'm going to put his albums on blast all day in honor.
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10-23-2007, 08:42 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Edinboro, PA | | | Bummer, great bassist: Always had crushing bass tone, played on some amazing albums as well.
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10-23-2007, 08:54 PM
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10-23-2007, 09:09 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Glendale & La Jolla, CA | | | I always dug Prong, was supposed to go see 'em live with my then-best friend and his dad but that never worked out. Shame. |
10-23-2007, 11:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Land of the People of Colin | | | Wow. I know I've seen him playing with Ministry, Prong, Killing Joke.... I'm gonna have to put some of his stuff on in honor. RIP.
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10-24-2007, 04:33 AM
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Stingray cutlass? looks (and sounds) like the same bass in Prong's "snap your fingers, snap your neck". |
10-24-2007, 05:25 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hampshire, UK | | | Shame. Killing Joke was the first gig I went to.
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10-24-2007, 12:43 PM
|  | Fingers, pick, and a little bit of slap | | Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Terrapin country (Crofton, MD) | | | I finally got to see him with Ministry a year ago. I've loved his work with Killing Joke and Prong. RIP |
10-24-2007, 05:53 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hannover, Germany | | That's a real shame, he was a really solid bloke and Killing Joke were one of my favourite bands for many years.
I met Paul Raven at a gig (Roy Harper) in London once, 17 years ago. Despite the fact that he was on a "night off" with some of his (showbiz) buddies, he wasn't the least bit grumpy when I (a complete stranger) approached him at the bar for a friendly word or two  .
At the time, KJ were just about to release their "Dirt and Extremeties" album and despite the fact that I was managing a record shop at that time, I didn't know anything about this  . Raven was really enthusing about it and was so concerned that I got to hear it, that he took my name and address down and promised to get a promo copy of the CD sent to me, as soon as it was ready for release. I didn't ask him to, he just offered .
And that, as I've heard from other people who've met him too, was the kind of guy that Paul Raven was - a real down-to-earth guy with a wicked sense of humour, who liked a pint and a laugh and always had time for fans of his music, although he had a fearsome reputation with stroppy journalists .
Luckily, we have YouTube now, so he needn't be forgotten  . Amusing Interview with Paul Raven and Jaz Coleman
R.I.P Paul.
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10-25-2007, 02:24 AM
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Endorsing: SIT, Eastwood, Hanson | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Hollywood, CA | | | I was so sad to read this about this on the KJ page a few days back.
He was such an integral part of Killing Joke's sound... and that band was/is as influential as anything in the punk/industrial/metal world. It's funny, because i'm certain ministry couldn't have made the transformation from fey pseudo-britpop to industrial metal had Killing Joke not been such a massive influence... and then he goes and joins Ministry after Paul Barker leaves. Truly came full circle.
Alas, nothing left to do but cherish everything the guy left us with which, thankfully, is a lot of stellar material!
(Not to disrespect anyone's memory, but has there been any word as to the future of Killing Joke?)
RIP Paul; sleep well brother.
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