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04-24-2011, 08:49 PM
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I was recommended the book: 'Standing in the Shadows of Motown' by a bass playing friend.
I appreciate that notated basslines might be useful, but I think it'll be better for me if I just learn the featured basslines from the original recordings.
My dad has the complete Motown singles collection so the plan is to put a playlist together featuring the songs from the book.
Does anyone know where I could get a tracklisting?
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04-24-2011, 10:44 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southern California | | | I still recommend the book. It comes with a CD of notable session players playing the grooves and the book itself is filled with Motown and Funk Brothers history. It is required reading IMO for any serious music student, especially bass players. Also, go and rent or buy the Standing in the Shadows of Motown DVD documentary. It tells the story in a compelling way and has some really great tribute performances. | 
04-24-2011, 10:54 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Canada! | | | Shadows is a good read, although admittedly the author (his son) isn't the greatest writer, but he got the story to us regardless....the DVD Doc, is also quite interesting.
The notation in the back of the book is excellent, and was checked and rechecked for accuracy, as close as they could possibly get it.
Are you looking for a track listing of what's in Shadows?
or complete Motown? (which is a pretty massive list)...but I'm sure it's on the web somewhere.
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04-24-2011, 11:14 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Washington Township, NJ | | This is long, but the Contents pages show all the tracks in the book. If you're talking about the four disc "Hitsville USA" collection, it's missing a few of the songs in this book. Hope this helps. Standing in the shadows of Motown ... - Google Books | 
04-25-2011, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Muzoid Shadows is a good read, although admittedly the author (his son) isn't the greatest writer, but he got the story to us regardless....the DVD Doc, is also quite interesting.
The notation in the back of the book is excellent, and was checked and rechecked for accuracy, as close as they could possibly get it.
Are you looking for a track listing of what's in Shadows?
or complete Motown? (which is a pretty massive list)...but I'm sure it's on the web somewhere. | A. That author is "Dr. Licks", not Jamerson's son.
B. The transcriptions are very good, and educational in their own. Get the book so you can not just learn the lines, but analyze them against the chord changes.
C. The stylistic notes by Anthony Jackson alone are worth buying the book.
D. Don't just go by song titles, these are for specific (and not always the most common or "popular" version).
John
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04-25-2011, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JTE A. That author is "Dr. Licks", not Jamerson's son.
B. The transcriptions are very good, and educational in their own. Get the book so you can not just learn the lines, but analyze them against the chord changes.
C. The stylistic notes by Anthony Jackson alone are worth buying the book.
D. Don't just go by song titles, these are for specific (and not always the most common or "popular" version).
John | +1ABCD | 
04-25-2011, 03:36 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bristol, England | | | So why not buy the book and learn songs not in the book by ear? You could develop your reading a great deal, while seeing a load of tidbits you might have missed otherwise.
In the September 2004 issue of Bass Player they transcribed "can't get next to you" by the Temptations. And talked to Ron Brown, who was a good friend of Jamersons.
He gave a ten song list of his favorite tracks featuring Jamerson.
These were:
"Shoo-be-doo-be-doo-da-day" and "you met your match" by Stevie Wonder.
"Night fo' last" and "People sure act funny" by Shorty Long.
"Groove thang" and "nothing but soul" by Junior Walker.
"Up the ladder to the roof" by the Supremes.
"Save the children" by Marvin Gaye.
"the power of love" by Jerry Butler.
And "Your love is rated x" by Johnnie Taylor
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04-25-2011, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JTE A. That author is "Dr. Licks", not Jamerson's son.
John | Funny...I just pulled out my Shadows book, noticed that, and was about to post a retraction.
John is correct....not sure why I was thinking it was his son....however, I know somewhere I heard he was somehow involved....possibly with the DVD?
Either way....good 'ol Dr Licks isn't the greatest writer, that's for sure. Good thing the actual story is interesting.
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04-25-2011, 09:33 AM
| | Dry and Heavy | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Swiss Alps | | | James Jamerson Jr. junior was interviewed for the book and the film, and he plays on the included CD.
The book was a labour of love, I don't think Slutsky is a writer by profession, more of a musician and music historian. I didn't find it particularly poorly written myself.
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04-25-2011, 10:00 AM
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Ain’t No Mountain High Enough (Marvin Gaye-Tammi Terrell, United,1967) 133
Ain’t Nothing Like The Real Thing (M. Gaye-T. Terrell, You’re All I Need, 1968) 152
Ain’t That Peculiar (Marvin Gaye, Moods Of Marvin Gaye, 1966) 106
Ain’t Too Proud To Beg (Temptations, Getting’ Ready, 1966) 112
Baby Love (Where Did Our Love Go? 1965) 140
Bernadette (Four Tops, Reach Out, 1967) 128
Cloud Nine (Temptations, Cloud Nine, 1969) 130
Come ’Round Here (Smokey Robinson/Miracles, Away We Go-Go, 1966) 163
Contract On Love (Stevie Wonder, Uptight, 1966) 112
Darling Dear (Jackson 5, Third Album,1970) 114
Don’t Mess With Bill (Marvelettes, Greatest Hits, 1966) 148
For Once In My Life (Stevie Wonder, For Once In My Life, 1968) 122
Get Ready (Temptations, Get Ready, 1966) 126
Girl Why You Wanna Make Me Blue (Temptations, Temptin’ Temptations, 1965) 138
Going To A Go-Go (Smokey Robinson/Miracles, Going To A Go-Go,1965) 112
Heat Wave (Martha Reeves/Vandellas, Heat Wave, 146) 146
Home Cookin’ (Jr. Walker/All Stars, Home Cookin’, 1969) 158
How Long Has That Evening Train Been Gone (D. Ross/Supremes, Love Child, 1968) 180
How Sweet It Is (Jr. Walker/All Stars, Road Runner, 1966) 144
I Heard It Through The Grapevine (G. Knight/Pips, Everybody Needs Love,1967) 109
I Know I’m Losing You (Temptations, With A Lot O’ Soul, 1967) 124
I Second That Emotion (Smokey Robinson/Miracles, Greatest Hits V.2, 1968) 124
I Was Made To Love Her (Stevie Wonder, I Was Made To Love Her, 1968) 169
I’m A Road Runner (Jr. Walker/All Stars, Road Runner, 1966) 154
I’m Gonna Make You Love Me (Diana Ross/Supremes Join Temptations, 1968) 137
I’m Wondering (Stevie Wonder, Looking Back, 1967) 178
It’s A Shame (Spinners, Second Time Around, 1970) 142
It’s The Same Old Song (Four Tops, Second Album, 1965) 150
Just A Little Misunderstanding (Contours, Just A Little Misunderstanding, 1966) 161
Love Is Here And Now You’re Gone (Supremes Sing H-D-H, 1967) 176
Love Is Like A An Itch In My Heart (Supremes, Supremes A Go-Go, 1966) 167
Mickey’s Monkey (Miracles, Doin’ Mickey’s Monkey, 1963) 146
My Baby Loves Me (Martha Reeves/Vandellas, Greatest Hits, 1966) 156
My Guy (Mary Wells, My Guy,1964) 107
Nowhere To Run (Martha Reeves/Vandellas, Dance Party, 1965) 172
Reach Out I’ll Be There (Four Tops, Reach Out, 1967) 119
Shake Me Wake Me (Four Tops, On Top, 1966) 150
Shotgun (Jr. Walker/All Stars, Shotgun, 1965) 117
Since I Lost My Baby (Temptations, The Temptin’ Temptations,1965) 177
Still Water (Four Tops, Still Waters Run Deep, 1970) 156
Strange I Know (Marvelettes, The Marvelous Marvelettes, 1963) 166
This Old Heart Of Mine (Isley Brothers, This Old Heart Of Mine, 1966) 165
Uptight (Stevie Wonder, Uptight, 1966) 154
What’s Going On (Marvin Gaye, What’s Going On, 1971) 104
You Can’t Hurry Love (Supremes, Supremes A Go-Go, 1966) 116
You Keep Me Hanging On (Supremes Sing Holland-Dozier-Holland, 1967) 131 | 
04-25-2011, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by One Drop James Jamerson Jr. junior was interviewed for the book and the film, and he plays on the included CD.
The book was a labour of love, I don't think Slutsky is a writer by profession, more of a musician and music historian. I didn't find it particularly poorly written myself. | Ya...i won't say he's terrible, or anything....just I didn't find it as captivating as (for example) JACO - Extraordinary/Tragic Life of.
But still...I read it cover-to-cover...and for a basically non-reader like myself, that a huge score.
Thanks for the clarification on Jr. I knew he was involved....not sure what possessed me to think he wrote it - hahaha........brain-fart
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Originally Posted by Muzoid Ya...i won't say he's terrible, or anything....just I didn't find it as captivating as (for example) JACO - Extraordinary/Tragic Life of. |
Bill Milkowski is a professional writer/author...I've read much of his work in various Downbeat, Guitar Player, Bass Player, etc magazines. It 's all good stuff.
Would bet Slutsky plays guitar better than Milkowski.
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04-25-2011, 03:16 PM
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Dennis Coffey's book (Guitars, Bars & Motown Superstars) is a good read...kinda sorta in Slutsky's style. Some more Jamerson info, too.
...and I know Coffey can play guitar better than Milkowski!
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04-25-2011, 03:26 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: VT | | | Buy the book, but be aware that not every song is completely transcribed. Off the top of my head, there are only parts of It's A Shame and I Second That Emotion included. For me, those omissions were a blessing - a chance to use my ear on one of the greatest players ever. | 
04-25-2011, 03:50 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Chicago, IL | | | Unfortunately this book doesn't have tabs, most of you will say this is a good thing as it will force you to learn to read music. As a bass player by hobby I don't have much time let alone need to know how to read.
I'd love to use this book but for this reason I can't. But What Duck Done has kept me busy at least. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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