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01-05-2013, 03:42 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Jacksonville, NC | | Quote:
Originally Posted by b-bottom what do you mean by buffer? | Complicated topic to explain. I think this is fairly well-written... http://www.musiciansfriend.com/brows...ediaId=m710463 | 
01-05-2013, 03:45 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Madison, Wi | | | I'd agree that the amp needs to be more powerful. I like Ron's idea of a power amp, old peaveys or newer lower-end class D poweramps can be had for not much money. You can get one with 2-300 watts a side that will do bridged mode and put out 8-900 watts. That's plenty of clean headroom for low tunings. Also, like Ron said, you could run the v4 as a preamp and slave the power amp. I bet it would sound pretty killer, and you'd give that marshall half stack a run for it's money.
Edit. I forgot you're getting the orange soon. That'll probably be just fine.
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01-05-2013, 03:53 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Davenport, IA | | FWIW i would check out the "Terror Bass" by orange too. I prefer it to the AD200B. Do you crank the V4? I do when I use mine and use dirt just to put it really over the edge. Sounded great against a Marshall JMP full stack in a small club. Used my gibson grabber which is a bit darker then a P bass. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW7y3...FJxMqX9V4oyhJh
Used a small sone that night too, sounded great. I find them to be more forward sounding in a mix then a Phase 90 or clone of. Also, as everyone else is saying, get some bigger strings. I use Circle K's for drop tuning but those DR DDT strings look promising. Also, GHS makes a .115 4 string set that i have found to be in stock a GC on a regular basis.
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01-05-2013, 03:58 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Madison, Wi | | | Yeah, +1 on the small stone. I got the nano a while back and it's great. | 
01-05-2013, 04:03 PM
|  | Brock Samson | | Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Pittsburgh | | Quote:
Originally Posted by hydrohydra is the G&L tribute SB-2 worth looking into? | Yes. Toastfuzz owns a tribute G&L guitar and loves it. From what I've read on TB, the tributes are almost identical to the USA ones, aside from some options and finish choices. Just be aware that the MFD pickups are aggressive, and don't necessarily sound like a vintage P tone. They are cool though. Quote:
Originally Posted by ampegfuzz FWIW i would check out the "Terror Bass" by orange too. I prefer it to the AD200B. Do you crank the V4? I do when I use mine and use dirt just to put it really over the edge. Sounded great against a Marshall JMP full stack in a small club. Used my gibson grabber which is a bit darker then a P bass. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW7y3...FJxMqX9V4oyhJh
Used a small sone that night too, sounded great. I find them to be more forward sounding in a mix then a Phase 90 or clone of. Also, as everyone else is saying, get some bigger strings. I use Circle K's for drop tuning but those DR DDT strings look promising. Also, GHS makes a .115 4 string set that i have found to be in stock a GC on a regular basis. | +1 to the Terror Bass. It is my main head and I love it to pieces. Also +1 to the Small Stone. I own a Nano and use it in probably half our songs, and my bass doesn't disappear even with two guitars. Then again, using a phaser on bass has a lot to do with knowing when and when not to use it. | 
01-05-2013, 04:03 PM
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01-05-2013, 04:04 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Davenport, IA | | | The nano is the best bang for the buck. I have a EH4800 RI, its a little thicker sounding but most people would not be able to tell the difference. | 
01-05-2013, 04:06 PM
|  | DethByDoom | | Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Houston,Tx | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird The Orange should make a huge difference. I don't like using my P with my 2 guitarist band, but I've used one in previous bands with 2 guitarists and it worked just fine. The P-bass shouldn't be "the" issue in a 1 guitar band, for sure.
You're going to have to work with your guitarist and find space for each other. Like you mentioned, this is sometimes a lot easier said than done. But for any band to be successful, the members need to be able to provide each other with constructive criticism. Have you talked to him about how you can't hear yourself in the mix? Maybe ask him if he is happy with his guitar tone, or if there are bands that he likes that he wishes his guitar sounded more like. A lot of times as a bassist, you need to find that sweet spot in the mids or hi-mids that makes your bass really stand out.
If the guitarist is using a lot of low end, you might want to mention to him that maybe he could take some low end out of his tone, allowing you more space for the bass and giving him a more musical sounding guitar tone that will help out a lot when playing things in the higher registers. | Well said. | 
01-05-2013, 04:09 PM
|  | acoustic, peavey, sunn...STACHE | | Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Milwaukee, WI | | Was able to talk the guy down to $20 since it wasnt a 215D, its still pretty deep compared to my sunn beta 215s, I think the 18's will be right at home in it. Now I gotta find someone with a saber saw or something.
415 and 218s here I come.
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01-05-2013, 04:16 PM
|  | Mr. Copeland | | Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Tacoma, WA | | Small stone nano is good, eh? I've got a Black Russian one and it's massive. I'd totally prefer something with a smaller footprint so I could fit something else on.
Moved some stuff around. Here's what I'm working with.  | 
01-05-2013, 04:18 PM
|  | Brock Samson | | Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Pittsburgh | | | Yes, I love my SS Nano. It's one of the few pedals that I just "clicked" with. No low end loss, some good diversity even though there's only one switch and one knob, and I love the way it sounds. The Nano, my Bluebeard, and my El Oso will never leave my pedal board. | 
01-05-2013, 04:19 PM
|  | DethByDoom | | Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Houston,Tx | | Quote:
Originally Posted by mc_muench Was able to talk the guy down to $20 since it wasnt a 215D, its still pretty deep compared to my sunn beta 215s, I think the 18's will be right at home in it. Now I gotta find someone with a saber saw or something. Attachment 309296
415 and 218s here I come. | Rent a jigsaw from Home Depot or lowes. | 
01-05-2013, 04:22 PM
|  | DethByDoom | | Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Houston,Tx | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird Yes, I love my SS Nano. It's one of the few pedals that I just "clicked" with. No low end loss, some good diversity even though there's only one switch and one knob, and I love the way it sounds. The Nano, my Bluebeard, and my El Oso will never leave my pedal board. | Good to know. Anyone try nano small clone? I have a regular but would jump on a nano if it was as good. | 
01-05-2013, 04:33 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Davenport, IA | | | Nano small clone is a JOKE!!!!! Sounds like nothing!! I tried 3 out all sounded the same. Pretty sure they made a different version when they realized they sucked. Try a delta labs chorus. Small, cheap, and good on bass. Also locopeland, try a nano SS side by side at a local GC you might like the russian better or like i said earlier not even notice. | 
01-05-2013, 04:41 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Knoxville TN | | | I'll have to look a bit further into buffers. This is the first time that I've ever heard of such a thing.
I've played the tiny terror before and while I liked it a lot more than I thought that I would.... I prefer the Ad200
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01-05-2013, 04:44 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Davenport, IA | | | A TU-2 is a good buffered pedal | 
01-05-2013, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ampegfuzz A TU-2 is a good buffered pedal | That's the first thing that I have on my board
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01-05-2013, 04:57 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Davenport, IA | | | I always put my tuners last, worth a shot. | 
01-05-2013, 04:59 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Knoxville TN | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ampegfuzz I always put my tuners last, worth a shot. | my understanding has been that tuners always go first in line since the signal will be coming straight out of the instrument, thus making it more accurate
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01-05-2013, 05:08 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Buffalo,NY | | | I have my tuner last on my board as a kill switch. I don`t think i makes it any less accurate.
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