Sterner/DERM Bassits Pert 41: Merxing sperkers iz gerd

[Corey Y]

Originally Posted by dozicusmaximus

I didn't have a strap at practice on Friday. But I found some twine. That kinda sucked. haha.
Hopefully this church thing lasts for a while. It was pretty sweet.

Ouch...no piano wire available?

[Lazarus.Bird]

So, looking for some advice for a friend.

He is in the market for a high wattage tube head that he could use for both guitar and bass, along with studio use. He plays in several bands of different styles, so he is looking for something versatile. He'd like to be able to do things like clean bass, heavy fuzzed out bass, clean guitar, heavy guitar, etc.

Some of his bands he needs to be relatively low volume, and the other bands he needs something loud and fuzzed out. He had mentioned how he thought 120W might seem like too much for guitar, but he needs to be heard on bass. I told him I wouldn't go much lower than 200W if he wants to be LOUD on bass.

It will also be used for recording other bands at the studio he works at.

He's been looking at both the Volume and Master Volume Electric Amps.

So basically...
1. Versatile tones on both bass and guitar.
2. Can play quiet, but wants to never not be loud enough for bass.
3. Wants something high quality that he will basically keep forever.

So he's been looking at those two EAs, and of course considering Matamp as well. Are there any commercially available amps that he should also be looking at? Of course I already told him he should look into Dunwich. Sounds like a Dunwich amp would be right up his alley. Maybe some kind of switchable tap to run the amp at 200w/100w/50w or something like that. I don't know much about guitar, so I don't know what bass heads are good for guitar. Any other suggestions?

[Lazarus.Bird]

I play lightweight stuff cause it's what works for me, not because I necessarily wanted something lightweight

[mc_muench]

Peavey VB2, never played one but couple guys here rave about them.

If I ever go tube thats what im looking for.

[JoeVictim]

Originally Posted by ampegfuzz

I'm to the point I'm sick of fighting my tone with my genz and might dump it for a GK MB or something. Ill take the same rig to the same bar and it never sounds the same twice. And for the most part not good. I love all the features, size, power and sounds alright at home. But come gig time I keep turning knobs. I had good luck the weekend with the 800rb but I was pressed for time so just took the 9.0 and regretted it.

The Shuttle? There was one guy I bought some gear off locally that had a 6.0 shuttle. He said the tone was a little too generic for his taste and he was going to dump it. I didn't ask what he was looking to get because I didn't want him to have second thoughts about the gear I was buying. lol.

The MB's have had some good reviews too. I still like the pre/power option for being the most versatile. Not too many heads that have two channels, much less two, 2ohm channels. I guess some of you guys with multiple cab rigs, would rather run more than one amp for a similar situation, huh?

[DethByDoom]

Originally Posted by ampegfuzz

Any of the drummers in the room try one of these before?

http://www.zzounds.com/item--EVADATK

Thoughts?

I bought one for our drummer because he's terrible about tuning his drums. He loves it. And his Tom's sound better now. Consistently.

[CL400Peavey]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

I play lightweight stuff cause it's what works for me, not because I necessarily wanted something lightweight

+1

Behind a curtain most people would think my pre/power and fEARful rig was much bigger/heavier that it actually is.

[mc_muench]

Originally Posted by dozicusmaximus

I didn't have a strap at practice on Friday. But I found some twine. That kinda sucked. haha.
Hopefully this church thing lasts for a while. It was pretty sweet.

Ive used my belt before, cut the fattest hole into a slit, unless you use that one. and use the buckle.

[The_Janitor]

Originally Posted by mc_muench

Thats quite delicious


VEGA may have its first basement show on the 18th, of this month!

Congrats on the show! I'm still trying to put something together here, but I've been getting the run-around from the first-choice venue. Second-choice venue just booked my drummer's other band so we're going to try to get in there. Still keeping Vega in mind...

[ampegfuzz]

Yeah it's a shuttle. Maybe it's just too modern. Even with the gain cranked, mids in/out, bass boosted/flat. Treble controls almost do nothing since I don't run a tweeter. Gear fund is pretty light too. Cause I would like to buy one to compare and sell the looser.

[ampegfuzz]

@laz, white rocker V4b maybe? Might not be loud enough for his clean bass needs.

[dozicusmaximus]

Piano wire ha!
The twine was pretty thick, so it wasn't too bad.
I don't wear a belt, munchies. But dualy noted.

I need to get a super bad ass black metal strap with spikes and bullets!

The twine did kind of go with the flannel, beard, and long hair though... haha

[CL400Peavey]

Originally Posted by ampegfuzz

Yeah it's a shuttle. Maybe it's just too modern. Even with the gain cranked, mids in/out, bass boosted/flat. Treble controls almost do nothing since I don't run a tweeter. Gear fund is pretty light too. Cause I would like to buy one to compare and sell the looser.

The .2 upgrades seem to get a lot more love. Less compressed down low.

[ampegfuzz]

Might be my problem. It's always seems thin. It was gettin it done with the GK and the ric last gig I used it on.

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

So, looking for some advice for a friend.

He is in the market for a high wattage tube head that he could use for both guitar and bass, along with studio use. He plays in several bands of different styles, so he is looking for something versatile. He'd like to be able to do things like clean bass, heavy fuzzed out bass, clean guitar, heavy guitar, etc.

Some of his bands he needs to be relatively low volume, and the other bands he needs something loud and fuzzed out. He had mentioned how he thought 120W might seem like too much for guitar, but he needs to be heard on bass. I told him I wouldn't go much lower than 200W if he wants to be LOUD on bass.

It will also be used for recording other bands at the studio he works at.

He's been looking at both the Volume and Master Volume Electric Amps.

So basically...
1. Versatile tones on both bass and guitar.
2. Can play quiet, but wants to never not be loud enough for bass.
3. Wants something high quality that he will basically keep forever.

So he's been looking at those two EAs, and of course considering Matamp as well. Are there any commercially available amps that he should also be looking at? Of course I already told him he should look into Dunwich. Sounds like a Dunwich amp would be right up his alley. Maybe some kind of switchable tap to run the amp at 200w/100w/50w or something like that. I don't know much about guitar, so I don't know what bass heads are good for guitar. Any other suggestions?

This here is EXACTLY why I love my Peavey VB-2. I use it for guitar, both super clean in E standard and heavy and fuzzed out in Drop G tuning. It handles that wonderfully, and thanks to the different mids frequency selector its really easy to dial in guitar mids. Plus it has EL34's which have a more familiar british guitar tone, and a post EQ FX loop (which i use with great success) Add in selectable inputs (clean for fender like tones, and dirty for more marshall tones) and the fact that its 225watts. He will always be heard, I was roaring through my 7 person band on 2 on Saturday night through a 4x12. Add on to that that it's actually designed as a bass amp so you can lower the mids selector to get more low mids and dial back the presence while boosting the bass and resonance and it sounds huge and full. It's also noticeably louder then my ad200b was, and stays cleaner throughout the volume spectrum. Add on the fact that you can score them for around 500$ used and its a no brainer. Feasibly instead of dropping 2500$ on a EA or Matamp and waiting with nothing to use in the mean time, he could buy a VB2 and put in an order for a Dunwich and come out with 2 awesome heads (one built EXACTLY to his specs) instead of 1 head with questionable build and the same length of wait time.

I really really need to do an official VB-2 for guitar demo to show people since this is coming up more and more. I will have some downtime this weekend so I think that's what I will do.

[d180fuzz]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

So, looking for some advice for a friend.

He is in the market for a high wattage tube head that he could use for both guitar and bass, along with studio use. He plays in several bands of different styles, so he is looking for something versatile. He'd like to be able to do things like clean bass, heavy fuzzed out bass, clean guitar, heavy guitar, etc.

Some of his bands he needs to be relatively low volume, and the other bands he needs something loud and fuzzed out. He had mentioned how he thought 120W might seem like too much for guitar, but he needs to be heard on bass. I told him I wouldn't go much lower than 200W if he wants to be LOUD on bass.

It will also be used for recording other bands at the studio he works at.

He's been looking at both the Volume and Master Volume Electric Amps.

So basically...
1. Versatile tones on both bass and guitar.
2. Can play quiet, but wants to never not be loud enough for bass.
3. Wants something high quality that he will basically keep forever.

So he's been looking at those two EAs, and of course considering Matamp as well. Are there any commercially available amps that he should also be looking at? Of course I already told him he should look into Dunwich. Sounds like a Dunwich amp would be right up his alley. Maybe some kind of switchable tap to run the amp at 200w/100w/50w or something like that. I don't know much about guitar, so I don't know what bass heads are good for guitar. Any other suggestions?

I may be biased, but everything you've asked for here can be achieved with a good old Mesa/Boogie D180:

http://www.mesaboogie.com/manuals/D-...ower%20Amp.pdf

They don't make them anymore, but they come up for sale here every once in a while. In fact, I might be coerced into selling my backup...

[Ancient Tone]

Oh and I picked up a new bass this weekend....



Looks to be a 99 MIM P, but its got a badass 2 bridge, hipshot D tuner, SD quarter pounders, and a thumb rest added on. And now thanks to me its rocking .65-.150 Circle K's in BEAD tuning (or with the flick of a switch AEAD). I had the chance to score this or a stock American Standard P, and I actually preferred this one overall, playability and tone was far superior to the AS either way its the perfect backup (or maybe new main) to my green franken P, especially once i install the QP's I got for that in.

[Lazarus.Bird]

Cool thanks for the input guys. I'll pass along the info.

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

Cool thanks for the input guys. I'll pass along the info.

No problem bro!

[dunwichamps]

Laz, I have a huge waiting list, probably the first buzz kill but I could easily satisfy those requirements but most likely going to be almost 1800 to 2000 with that amount of flexibility.

Skip's peavey recommendation is good.

Also, a nice haul today