Stone/Doom Bassists Thread Part 39: Flip Flops & Zubaz!

[mc_muench]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

Kind of weird seeing the new Baroness on top of most of the Best of 2012 lists, both blogs and musicians, when most of us didn't particularly care for it, let alone consider it the best album of 2012.

pity vote?

[eyeballkid]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

Kind of weird seeing the new Baroness on top of most of the Best of 2012 lists, both blogs and musicians, when most of us didn't particularly care for it, let alone consider it the best album of 2012.

what we think isn't important.. its the album all the marketers say we SHOULD like!

[Sartori]

Originally Posted by JoeVictim

Tell me about it. Conversation went like this.

me: So what bands are you into?
him: I don't know a lot of bands, but I like Down.
*warning flags that his point of reference is Down and I did not list them as an influence.
me: Well, do you know any of the bands I listed?
him: not really
me: what do you want to tune to?
him: I play a 7 string, I am in drop A
me: oh. what do you think the vocal style would sound like? *tyrying to see if we really are on the same page or not
him: can you sing pretty? girls won't come to our shows if we scream...

me: well, this other guy emailed me first, so I am going to give him the first shot...

seriously. Although, I would have gave him a shot. It did not sound like a good fit from the start and I didn't want to settle AGAIN.

Indeed. Plus, if his focus is really more on whether girls come or not, rather than on the music, I dunno...

[The_Janitor]

Originally Posted by HydrasBreath

Yeah we went through some pretty similar facepalm moments when I was in a fast thrashy but melodic kind of metal band and we were looking for a lead guitarist.

Some kid replied and we set up a jam. We had put influences like old Metallica, Megadeth, Iron Maiden, Iced Earth. So I told him learn this Iced Earth tune and we'll show you some of our originals.

This kid shows up wanting to jam Avenged Sevenfold ...he could barely even play and when the rhythm guitarist said we were going out for a "tree" break he seemed mortified haha. It wasn't long after that that he hightailed it out of there.

Had a similar experience with a drummer. He was young, but said he liked queens of the stone age, tool, helmet. I figured we could work with that. We (guitar player and I) rented a rehearsal space for the afternoon so the kid could audition. He didn't know any queens or helmet songs that I asked about and I wasn't about to try to jam to a tool song. He couldn't even hold a 4:4 beat. I played some simple, easy bass lines, he had no clue what was going on. I tried giving helpful suggestions, as I'm a drummer also. Nothing.

Afterward we were hanging out and I asked him:

Me: "What kind of music do you like?"
Him: "oh, I like everything"
Me:"Can you name some bands or something?"
Him:"Oh you know, heavy stuff, I like it all."
Me:<getting annoyed> "Ok, what cd is in your car right now?"
Him:"I don't have a car"
Me:<more annoyed> "In your stereo at home, then?"
Him:"I just use my ipod."
Me:"Forget it."

Needless to say it didn't work out.

[Sartori]

Originally Posted by HydrasBreath

hmm strange...some kind of attenuator built in or something?

Not sure exactly how it works. It's not an attenuator, though, as far as I know.

Doing a bit of research, I discovered that my terms were mistaken. The master volume is a current limiter, not voltage.

[The_Janitor]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

Kind of weird seeing the new Baroness on top of most of the Best of 2012 lists, both blogs and musicians, when most of us didn't particularly care for it, let alone consider it the best album of 2012.

Pity vote like Max said is possible.

They're also reaching out beyond our little genre corner to a more mainstream audience, sort of following in Mastodon's path. So I think a lot of critics and bloggers that aren't deeply entrenched in the more obscure corners of the stoner/doom world are pretty excited by them. Like it or not, they're innovative, evolving and taking risks without losing their integrity. Those are great subjective reasons to praise a band/album, even if the music leaves a lot of people unimpressed.

Edit for disclosure: I'm not a fan of them. I respect them, but was never able to get into their music.

[Jason!]

Originally Posted by eyeballkid

what we think isn't important.. its the album all the marketers say we SHOULD like!

Commercial doom.

[DeadByDawn]

Originally Posted by HydrasBreath

I'm sure Dunwich could point you to some resources.

Hopefully. Google was not terribly helpful. It was either dry electronic design or what pedals sound like. I was looking for how that design theory is related to the sound that comes out. To me, it's a whole lot capacitor/resistor black magic in there.

On a more practical level, how do the people who mod pedals know what to mod or improve a design?

[The_Janitor]

Originally Posted by DeadByDawn

Hopefully. Google was not terribly helpful. It was either dry electronic design or what pedals sound like. I was looking for how that design theory is related to the sound that comes out. To me, it's a whole lot capacitor/resistor black magic in there.

On a more practical level, how do the people who mod pedals know what to mod or improve a design?

There's a good general description here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distortion_%28music%29

Can't help with the finer details, though.

[HydrasBreath]

Originally Posted by The_Janitor

Afterward we were hanging out and I asked him:

Me: "What kind of music do you like?"
Him: "oh, I like everything"
Me:"Can you name some bands or something?"
Him:"Oh you know, heavy stuff, I like it all."
Me:<getting annoyed> "Ok, what cd is in your car right now?"
Him:"I don't have a car"
Me:<more annoyed> "In your stereo at home, then?"
Him:"I just use my ipod."
Me:"Forget it."

Needless to say it didn't work out.

I absolutely hate people like that. They say they like everything or just mimic what you say cause they're afraid they'll offend you or something.

That guitarist kid we tried was doing that too. Any band we would name that we were into he'd immediately say "oh yeah for sure I love them too"...said that for every single band we named. But he didn't know any songs by any of them.

very frustrating.

[Toastfuzz]

Originally Posted by Corey Y

...like accusing DethByDoom of leaving character pooplets all over the thread. Which is what this is. A moment, that is awkward. Involving computer poops.

Wait, so is it code for poop or period blood?

[The_Janitor]

Originally Posted by HydrasBreath

I absolutely hate people like that. They say they like everything or just mimic what you say cause they're afraid they'll offend you or something.

That guitarist kid we tried was doing that too. Any band we would name that we were into he'd immediately say "oh yeah for sure I love them too"...said that for every single band we named. But he didn't know any songs by any of them.

very frustrating.

Yeah, I was just trying to find some kind of common ground with the guy. I guess my friends and I can be intimidating, but we're pretty laid-back, non-judgmental people. A lot of people assume metal fans are very closed-minded, but it's almost always the opposite.

****, I like bluegrass, jazz, classic country, Pinback, The Flaming Lips, the list goes on and on...

[Toastfuzz]

Originally Posted by The_Janitor

Yeah, I was just trying to find some kind of common ground with the guy. I guess my friends and I can be intimidating, but we're pretty laid-back, non-judgmental people. A lot of people assume metal fans are very closed-minded, but it's almost always the opposite.

****, I like bluegrass, jazz, classic country, Pinback, The Flaming Lips, the list goes on and on...

Its a bit of a pet peeve of mine how metalheads often do that indie attitude thing where they snub their noses at people who listen to more popular metal bands, and if you ask them their influences, they name 10 bands that you (or most people, metalheads included) have ever heard of. Then when you name somebody that actually has a tad of recognition, their response is "oh, I used to listen to them, when I was in 8th grade or so"

Normally I brush it off as typical metalhead behavior but yeah it makes it really hard when you're talking musician to musician and trying to communicate.

I'm pretty sure I found my band just because I listed Sleep as an influence on the CL ad. The drummer found my ad and called me because of it. Our band sounds nothing like Sleep, but we initially got together just figuring "well, if they like Sleep, they can't be all bad."

[HydrasBreath]

Originally Posted by The_Janitor

Yeah, I was just trying to find some kind of common ground with the guy. I guess my friends and I can be intimidating, but we're pretty laid-back, non-judgmental people. A lot of people assume metal fans are very closed-minded, but it's almost always the opposite.

****, I like bluegrass, jazz, classic country, Pinback, The Flaming Lips, the list goes on and on...

Yeah same here my tastes are extremely broad. I'll rock the fvck out to some 12th century church chant or other classical stuff just as easily as some OM. I also love jazz, blues, prog, straight up rock from the 60's and 70's, tons' of metal sub-genres like NWOBHM, Thrash, Power, Death...the list is quite extensive.

[Corey Y]

Originally Posted by Toastfuzz

Wait, so is it code for poop or period blood?

It's whatever you want it to be. Let your dreams take flight on wings of imagination, into clouds of poop and/or period blood.

[HydrasBreath]

Originally Posted by Toastfuzz

Its a bit of a pet peeve of mine how metalheads often do that indie attitude thing where they snub their noses at people who listen to more popular metal bands, and if you ask them their influences, they name 10 bands that you (or most people, metalheads included) have ever heard of. Then when you name somebody that actually has a tad of recognition, their response is "oh, I used to listen to them, when I was in 8th grade or so"

Normally I brush it off as typical metalhead behavior but yeah it makes it really hard when you're talking musician to musician and trying to communicate.

I'm pretty sure I found my band just because I listed Sleep as an influence on the CL ad. The drummer found my ad and called me because of it. Our band sounds nothing like Sleep, but we initially got together just figuring "well, if they like Sleep, they can't be all bad."

Yeah I listen to plenty of more mainstream stuff. I ain't ashamed.

And it definitely helps to list more popular bands that people are likely to know in musician wanted adds.

[HydrasBreath]

Originally Posted by Toastfuzz

Wait, so is it code for poop or period blood?

It's code to make you poop period blood.

[bassboysam]

Originally Posted by Toastfuzz

Quick question.... theres some character that you guys post that my browser doesn't understand, it displays to me as &hellip; . Doomy what is the symbol or character or word you put right after 150?

Good. i thought it was just me.

[Corey Y]

I listen to lots of music. Whatever wanders into my earholes and tickles my brain. It's just that most of my brain's ticklish spots respond to massive, sludgy, thick n juicy riffs. I can find something to listen to in pretty much any genre. Sometimes I feel like I'm going crazy and I want to listen to things I don't even really feel I should like.

I heard a Taylor Swift/Korn mashup earlier this week and I've probably listened to it 50 times so far. I do not care for either individually, I can't explain it. Sometimes earworms just get in there and make themselves at home.

[JoeVictim]

Originally Posted by Toastfuzz

Its a bit of a pet peeve of mine how metalheads often do that indie attitude thing where they snub their noses at people who listen to more popular metal bands, and if you ask them their influences, they name 10 bands that you (or most people, metalheads included) have ever heard of. Then when you name somebody that actually has a tad of recognition, their response is "oh, I used to listen to them, when I was in 8th grade or so"

Normally I brush it off as typical metalhead behavior but yeah it makes it really hard when you're talking musician to musician and trying to communicate.

I'm pretty sure I found my band just because I listed Sleep as an influence on the CL ad. The drummer found my ad and called me because of it. Our band sounds nothing like Sleep, but we initially got together just figuring "well, if they like Sleep, they can't be all bad."

You've just described every punk rocker ever. (including me at one point, but I did have my Dad's classic rock collection as my childhood soundtrack)

To be fair though, in those days you either knew punk rock or you didn't. It's not as though the bands were inaccessible. But if the only bands you know are Sex Pistols and Green Day...well, that wasn't cool enough to hang with me You atleast had to know Minor Threat or Black Flag or Bad Brains or something good...