Stoner/Doom Bassist Thread Pt. 47: Cooking with 300W Tube Amp GAS

[Kawai-chang]

Morning. Coffee's Ok today. Listening to Rory Gallagher "Notes from San Francisco" today. Live album.

[Kawai-chang]

I've used flats for years, can always be heard. chromes. not sure of the size.

[NOAH_FX]

Originally Posted by Moloch666

Who was it that had used the PayPal "Bill Me Later" thing? Can someone PM me with info and how it worked?

Thinking it may be a good option for a purchase that I don't want to let escape on me...

Here's my email, so Bill Me later.

[mc_muench]

Originally Posted by Niff

anyone tried the D*A*M Sonic Titan on bass? sounds absolutely beautiful on guitar

it sounds like they did this:

Hahaha

[Toastfuzz]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

Well, flats have a much higher tension than rounds. I could probably stand to move up to the bigger gauge Chromes (I think .105 is the biggest they make? maybe .110?) but my strings aren't very loose.

To a rounds player, your flats still feel like they have alot of tension. They feel "like flats."

D'darrio XL stainless or nickel have been my go-to strings, anytime I experiment with something else I don't like em. Using a medium set for drop B on a 5 (so my top 4 strings are actually tuned UP from EADG) which I thought was kind of weird at first, but it works.

[bassboysam]

I've tried to like flats but they just don't sound right with me. There is just too much fundemental and it always sounds like my speakers are going to jump out of my cab.

having said that, one of the best tones I got was with my p-bass and a fresh set of La Bell extra-light flats. but they are too expensive to keep restringing every few months.

[Jason Hall]

I think when I'm ready to restring I'm investing in a bunch of the circle k sets and setting everything up. I've _always_ thought the e was too floppy for my tastes compared to the other strings (I hit hard). I just love that extra grit from the roundwounds on frets and how they feel on my fingers. I can see where flats guys would like the consistancy of tone though.

[Toastfuzz]

What do your guys' basses sound like direct into a clean amp? I'm curious now, as we all run fuzzy wuzzy pedalboards and grindy amps, what sort of signal we're feeding these monsters? This flats and rounds conversation inspired the question. We all know the end result is dark, heavy, thick, fuzzy kick-you-in-the-uterus bass, but what are we feeding our rigs to munch on?

With my Stingray knockoff, being passive, my base tone is a bit darker and with high treble roll off.... but the low end is super smooth and controlled, and the MM tone comes out strong in the high mids. I think primarily this bass works because of how smooth and even the bass is, my pedals and rig are able to always lay down a heavy nice fundamental in a band mix, and the slight MM burp is nicely accentuated by the fuzz. However the signal coming out of my bass is in now way "high output" and requires a good gain stage after it, whether in fuzz/dirt or a nice preamp or a head with a good pre. Also, if you recall I wired this sucker so the pickup signal goes to an on/off rocker to the jack, so no volume or tone controls... my toneshaping is entirely in the gain stage afterwords. Thanks again to Corey for his gain wisdom and helping me shape a rig I'm really happy with!

I'm interested to know what kind of signals you're pumping out of the Rics, Gibsons, etc. Actually for those guys using actives + drive pedals, I'd love to know how you get good toanzz and how you set your pre!

[The_Janitor]

I used flats for awhile, but went back to rounds. I don't like the initial break-in period with a new set of rounds, they're usually too bright for my tastes. But when they start to break in and get a little grimy and darker sounding... that's the perfect sound to me.

I play a 5 and I think I'm using .130s. Been playing DRs because I can get them cheap at work.

[mbelue]

The set of flats I got recently(as a gift, even) was a D'addario 100 long scale; which I put on my first bass(Samick P&J w/ emgs 4 string). They sound great with those bright-ass pickups, really good tone; they just don't seem to like drop-D. Intonation worked out fine, just that lowest string sounds phlegmy and indistinct.
Its getting about time I swapped out the power slinky's on my corvette which stays in A standard. Was thinking about tryin' flats, but it just doesn't seem to be feasible with any kind of drop tuning.
Anybody take their B to an A with flats?

[MICKUSS]

Originally Posted by Toastfuzz

What do your guys' basses sound like direct into a clean amp? I'm curious now, as we all run fuzzy wuzzy pedalboards and grindy amps, what sort of signal we're feeding these monsters? This flats and rounds conversation inspired the question. We all know the end result is dark, heavy, thick, fuzzy kick-you-in-the-uterus bass, but what are we feeding our rigs to munch on?

With my Stingray knockoff, being passive, my base tone is a bit darker and with high treble roll off.... but the low end is super smooth and controlled, and the MM tone comes out strong in the high mids. I think primarily this bass works because of how smooth and even the bass is, my pedals and rig are able to always lay down a heavy nice fundamental in a band mix, and the slight MM burp is nicely accentuated by the fuzz. However the signal coming out of my bass is in now way "high output" and requires a good gain stage after it, whether in fuzz/dirt or a nice preamp or a head with a good pre. Also, if you recall I wired this sucker so the pickup signal goes to an on/off rocker to the jack, so no volume or tone controls... my toneshaping is entirely in the gain stage afterwords. Thanks again to Corey for his gain wisdom and helping me shape a rig I'm really happy with!

I'm interested to know what kind of signals you're pumping out of the Rics, Gibsons, etc. Actually for those guys using actives + drive pedals, I'd love to know how you get good toanzz and how you set your pre!

My P-bass with chromes played through the clean channel on my 300 Pro + 2x15 sounds so perfect it almost has me wanting to play clean...haha.

[JoeVictim]

Originally Posted by Toastfuzz

What do your guys' basses sound like direct into a clean amp? I'm curious now, as we all run fuzzy wuzzy pedalboards and grindy amps, what sort of signal we're feeding these monsters? This flats and rounds conversation inspired the question. We all know the end result is dark, heavy, thick, fuzzy kick-you-in-the-uterus bass, but what are we feeding our rigs to munch on?

With my Stingray knockoff, being passive, my base tone is a bit darker and with high treble roll off.... but the low end is super smooth and controlled, and the MM tone comes out strong in the high mids. I think primarily this bass works because of how smooth and even the bass is, my pedals and rig are able to always lay down a heavy nice fundamental in a band mix, and the slight MM burp is nicely accentuated by the fuzz. However the signal coming out of my bass is in now way "high output" and requires a good gain stage after it, whether in fuzz/dirt or a nice preamp or a head with a good pre. Also, if you recall I wired this sucker so the pickup signal goes to an on/off rocker to the jack, so no volume or tone controls... my toneshaping is entirely in the gain stage afterwords. Thanks again to Corey for his gain wisdom and helping me shape a rig I'm really happy with!

I'm interested to know what kind of signals you're pumping out of the Rics, Gibsons, etc. Actually for those guys using actives + drive pedals, I'd love to know how you get good toanzz and how you set your pre!

Dry Sea has the part with the vocal that is totally clean, bypassed all pedals, bass to amp to cab. It sounds pretty good, but still has a hint of grind dialed in the pre.

[Lazarus.Bird]

The best part about using flats is I never put new strings on my basses

[Toastfuzz]

Originally Posted by MICKUSS

My P-bass with chromes played through the clean channel on my 300 Pro + 2x15 sounds so perfect it almost has me wanting to play clean...haha.

Haha I know how you feel... its like a bonding experience where you realize you're never gonna let that bass be "the one that got away" haha

[Lazarus.Bird]

Btw toast I think I'm going to Howlers tonight and Gooski's tomorrow if you're looking for anything to do.

[CL400Peavey]

Originally Posted by Toastfuzz

What do your guys' basses sound like direct into a clean amp? I'm curious now, as we all run fuzzy wuzzy pedalboards and grindy amps, what sort of signal we're feeding these monsters? This flats and rounds conversation inspired the question. We all know the end result is dark, heavy, thick, fuzzy kick-you-in-the-uterus bass, but what are we feeding our rigs to munch on?

Most of the time I am running clean into a channel strip, and then into a power amp. I like the natural sound of my Stingray HS on the second pick up selection with the mids dimed. I boost a little low mids with the ART to add a bit more punch.

[Jason Hall]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

The best part about using flats is I never put new strings on my basses

I like my strings with some grime on them. I spray the crap out of them with that fast fret oil stuff, have since I was in high school. Usually when I change strings, it's because I want to check out new kinds of strings .

[Lazarus.Bird]

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[JoeVictim]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

Hmmmmmmm http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/msd/3618159187.html

Damn.

[Jason Hall]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

Hmmmmmmm http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/msd/3618159187.html

Ahah... I think that's my old music teacher's store (it's the only one in vandergrift). The guy used to date my mom... created many awkward conversations when she would drop me off for lessons. Awesome guy but def try before you buy and he'll haggle with you.

Laz, you interested in this or should I consider? I can get the "you used to date my mom" discount.