Stoner/DOOM Bassists Part 34: The Way She Goes

[dunwichamps]

well low end out of an 18W GT120/Trainwreck amp isnt so telling but it didnt sound thin. I need to get it through atleast a 100W amp or so.

[Lazarus.Bird]

Originally Posted by Corey Y

That sounds good, nice and growly. How is the low end response in person? Always impossible to tell in youtube clips for me.

Yeah only negative thoughts I had about it were it sounds like the low end was a bit lacking, but between speaker cabinets, microphones, youtube compression and my computer's sound card, who knows how close it is to how it sounds in person. You can definitely tell it sounds awesome though haha.

[dunwichamps]

its like running your bass through a 18W guitar rig so its not ideal to be honest. So right at the end of the clip you hear my roommate open the door and go. Is that the bass, well he is a bassist. I let him play the pedal through the amp right after i stopped recording and doh why i didnt just let him play in the first place. I put the gain down and it sounded nice 2 then

[bassboysam]

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

got a bass clip of the GT120 thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=274FbgTVOOs

it's actually quite remarkable how "matamp-ish" it sounds. reminds me of my GT200 a lot, which I can't get that distorted without drowning out everything else I wouldn't try to incorporate too much bass into the drive circuit i think it would lose a lot of the character and clarity, maybe a separate clean volume control or blend for those that may want more low end?

[Rushing]

Personally I think every bass pedal should have a blend knob.

[Corey Y]

It really wasn't a loaded question or anything, I know it's not a perfect scenario for testing bass. I doubt it would need to be fine tuned for bass use anyway, really. Those type of amps of that era, pretty interchangeable between bass and guitar. With the right speakers and a buttload of volume, it will sound bassy enough.

[dunwichamps]

clean blend? a possibility for a bass version. No worries Corey not offended by question. Its something thats important tho and will require fine tuning

[Corey Y]

A switch for BASS/GUITAR mode would be pretty slick. I used to have a giant Fender tube head that was like that. I ended up using the "bass" mode for guitar most of the time. I have zero clue how effective or efficient that feature has ever been on any amp that had it. I've seen it in a lot of older Fender and Fender style amps though, having gone through a lot of old weird tube heads. Back in the late 90s, when they were just old and not "vintage".

[dunwichamps]

i might have to shop the prototype around with TB doom room guys if there into it

[Rushing]

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

clean blend? a possibility for a bass version. No worries Corey not offended by question. Its something thats important tho and will require fine tuning

Ya, clean blend. Not always necessary but I often find myself wishin i had the option.

[demon666]

I would be into it but I guess it would kinda be redundant.

[Corey Y]

I guess it would depend on how you were using it. If you were running it as a character pedal/preamp, but getting most of your gain from a fuzz/od/dist pedal, wouldn't be any point to a blend. If you were running it strictly as a dirt pedal, sure. Like I said previously, I would consider picking up something like that for guitar, to use as a preamp into a clean tube head or a power amp, with pedals in front of it. Could be cool to mess around with on bass as well, but I doubt I would use it as a dedicated dirt pedal. Not that the dirt doesn't sound killer, just seems like it would be underusing the potential of it.

[Lazarus.Bird]

I bet that thing would be great in front of my 7 Pro.

[Corey Y]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

I bet that thing would be great in front of my 7 Pro.

Running something like that into the Power Amp In on the 7 Pro would be interesting. If it sounds good at all, it'll sound great pumping several hundred watts into a Dually.

[Road Bull]

Originally Posted by Rushing

Ya, clean blend. Not always necessary but I often find myself wishin i had the option.

I am a fan of the clean blend. I dig my clean tone as the building blocks of my sound and like it being there behind my dirt.

Anybody here use blenders and/or have much experience with them? I have been eyeing the wounded paw blender, the one with like four inputs.

[dunwichamps]

Maybe a TB DR pedal tour? Id be down to shop the prototype bass unit around after the git unit was done or maybe both at same time.

[demon666]

Nick here is a list of stuff that would be awesome

-Lemmy pedal ( Marshall superbass)
-DFA1979 (Acoustic 450 in a box)
-Electric Wizard box
-Fvcking insane delay with oscillation switch, exp control, mod other than chorus, etc.

Just saying.........


I would be into all of that.

[dunwichamps]

For the bass unit I would change the baxandall to SVT specs, adjust the FAC/Depth controls cap selections, adjust the overall filtering on each stage to allow for the right kind of low end. Add an op amp clean blend in? that would need some thought but its possible

[dunwichamps]

Originally Posted by demon666

Nick here is a list of stuff that would be awesome

-Lemmy pedal ( Marshall superbass)
-DFA1979 (Acoustic 450 in a box)
-Electric Wizard box
-Fvcking insane delay with oscillation switch, exp control, mod other than chorus, etc.

Just saying.........


I would be into all of that.

Lemmy Pedal, check and that is already on my list. The idea for that was SB/SL and JMP in one box on a switch similar to how I am doing the GT120

In terms of the 450, I could do a full stand alone preamp in a larger box. That scheme is pretty complex in the preamp wit a large # of inductors. It is doable but not as small as Corey's Acoustic 140 in a box. Might be nice as a full larger preamp

If you want the old EWiz ton, an FZ2 or suitable clone will do. Now later era stuff I am less familar with. The amp they use was a Sound City 120R which is fairly clean, with a bit of hiwatt influence. It could be made into a JFET conversion but may not be good as a OD or fuzz pedal by itself

Concerning the delay I have a unit in mind already with most of those things you list.

Idea Features

Dual Mono with 3 operation modes:
Mono in Mono Out, Stereo in Stereo Out, and Mono In Mono Out
0 to 1000 mS of delay time
Foot-switchable Modulation (1 controls)
Tails Switch (on/off)
Compressor Input (3 controls)
Output Global Gain Control
Adjustable LPF on Wet Signal Only
Tap Tempo and manual delay control
Full Isolation on both outputs with phase flipping and 3 way ground lifting (Ground, Float, Lift)

[ampegfuzz]

So motorhead fans, if any, favorite lemmy tone.