Stoner/DOOM Bassists part 35: Colorado Bound

[Toastfuzz]

Originally Posted by beebassdude

ive only had horrible player stories for finding members, but never crazy **** like that. when we lost our last drummer, first guy we brought out literally couldnt play a beat. and not some crazy beat we asked or anything out of the ordinary, he couldnt play like enter sandman beats. and it was just embarrassing and sad, we ended up just stopping cause the dude was completely lost. i was more pissed at the dude that recommended him lol.

A good guitarist friend of mine told me a similar story, they tried out a drummer who just for the life of him could not play drums. 2 or 3 years later, my guitarist buddy was starting another band and got a call from a drummer... walking up to the house it felt oddly familiar... turns out it was the same guy, he'd taken lessons the last few years, and he kicked ass and became their drummer. Good anecdotal story of why its good not to burn bridges if you plan on participating in a local music scene.

[JoeVictim]

Originally Posted by Toastfuzz

I could, what do you want to know? How it compares to the Black Widow, or just how it performs in the cab?

One thing about that Peavey, and pretty much any clean solid-state head I've ever played, is that I can't get a tone that my ears like just plugging into it... I always run either my VT Bass or Rusty Box as a toneshaper into the amp's pre (so I can EQ on the amp.) You interested in the shaped tone, or the direct-in tone?

edit: also, I'm so so glad I kept the VT and Rusty, almost ditched em both when I started using the Acoustic fulltime. Rusty Box trumps the VT personally but I never know when I'm gonna want "SVT in a small metal box" tone. Those 2 pedals really are awesome. Throw either pedal in front of a clean SS amp for instant SVT grind or instant vintage SS grind.

Volume drop was my biggest concern. I know those cabs can sound pretty good. My issue was getting a speaker that worked for that tuning. The Kappas did not work. Of course the BW are what the cab was designed for so Yeah, volume difference between BW and the new one. Pretty please?

[metalinthenight]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

I think I made the right decision tonight (for me at least). Junior Astronomers was freaking amazing.

Thanks for comin out man!! 'twas rad to meet you! We'll be coming back through Steel Town again for sure! Awesome night!!

[mc_muench]

I've never had that bad of luck with craigslist, sure theres been some ones that never got anywhere but overall, both of my past bands have been found on Craigslist.

And look at me now!!!

[Corey Y]

Originally Posted by JoeVictim

After 10 months we had 4 songs.

What I wouldn't give for that kind of breakneck pace. I made a list of the songs we're recording soon at our last practice and it's currently 6. Which includes 3 songs we've written in the past several months, one we already recorded for a comp the first six months in the band, one that we wrote before the only gig we've played since I've been in the band, over a year ago, and another that's been around since before I joined that's still unfinished. So that's 6 songs (sort of...not really...because two of them aren't even really finished) in about, ohhh...28 months.

That's part of the reason I'm pushing hard to finish writing my own songs and do another project as the primary songwriter. I jam out at least a few riffs every week. If I had some band members to bounce them off of I could have written dozens of songs this year so far. It takes me forever to flesh material out by myself. I'm really good at arranging other people's riffs into full songs and great at churning out riffs, but my motivation and follow through sucks when it comes to turning my own riffs into finished songs. Too much second guessing and self criticism.

Originally Posted by beebassdude

ive only had horrible player stories for finding members, but never crazy **** like that. when we lost our last drummer, first guy we brought out literally couldnt play a beat. and not some crazy beat we asked or anything out of the ordinary, he couldnt play like enter sandman beats. and it was just embarrassing and sad, we ended up just stopping cause the dude was completely lost. i was more pissed at the dude that recommended him lol.

I've had this experience at least once with every CL ad looking for drummers. It's really awkward trying not to be a jerk to those people, while they completely waste your time. I've had a guy do that, who swore to me he had regular jazz and prog gigs and the beats were just "too simple" for him to get the changes.

[Toastfuzz]

Originally Posted by metalinthenight

Thanks for comin out man!! 'twas rad to meet you! We'll be coming back through Steel Town again for sure! Awesome night!!

Hey man, you guys killed it! I'm friends with the guys from Red Hands, I came to see them but honestly you guys were the best show of the night. Some slick jams my friend, and that BTB sounded nasty!

[Lazarus.Bird]

Originally Posted by metalinthenight

Thanks for comin out man!! 'twas rad to meet you! We'll be coming back through Steel Town again for sure! Awesome night!!

Hey man! Good luck on the rest of your tour! This thread would appreciate the fact that last night you were playing through a 70s Acoustic head and Emperor cab

[JoeVictim]

LOL, Corey. Keep iin mind, that I had 4 songs. The drummer never made it past song #1. He always had some lame excuse as to why ( I couldn't hear you, guitar, vocal). We made a deal he would lock in with me and I put my gear right beside him so he could hear and all. Then, I got the Crown and threw 1100 watts through my Omni. It murdered him. Band quit shortly after realizing that nothing was progressing. I jammed with the guitar player for a bit afterwards.

I'm still cool with guitarist, but we never really hang out.

[Corey Y]

Originally Posted by JoeVictim

LOL, Corey. Keep iin mind, that I had 4 songs. The drummer never made it past song #1. He always had some lame excuse as to why ( I couldn't hear you, guitar, vocal). We made a deal he would lock in with me and I put my gear right beside him so he could hear and all. Then, I got the Crown and threw 1100 watts through my Omni. It murdered him. Band quit shortly after realizing that nothing was progressing. I jammed with the guitar player for a bit afterwards.

I'm still cool with guitarist, but we never really hang out.

Yeah, that definitely sucks. Cold Mourning works at a snails pace, but everyone is cool and can play their instrument properly. I had a situation similar to that though, right after my last serious band broke up in 2008. We ended up re-writing all the songs, so the drummer could play them and they were not difficult to start. I probably would have ended up bailing or kicking the guy out, but the band just dissolved after the first show (which sucked, because nobody showed up to practice half the time). The band member that had the practice space moved out of state without telling anyone and everyone else just never called me back again. Glad I took all my gear home with me after that show. I chose to omit most of the memories of that band existing now, it was embarrassing.

[JoeVictim]

Embarrassing also describes what we were.

Seriously, it almost made me quit. (but so did my back pain, so maybe I'm just a quitter )

[twhitedc]

Originally Posted by JMac4strngr

Thanks twhitedc, I live in the EAV over behind the EARL and down the street from the 529 club. Which is all of about 5 to 10 minutes away from Little 5 Points, the world famous Claremont Lounge (where strippers go to die) and The Masquerade.

That's a great area! Did Criminal Records Close? I would imagine that there's got to be some sort of stoney scene going on in the city.. especially down there.

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

So I just picked this up on vinyl on my lunch break. Listening to it while at work on Spotify and holy crap what an awesome blind purchase this was. J Mascis at his best. It's got an Earthless/Tia Carerra thing going on. Bass is thick and heavy as hell.

that album is AMAZING I wish there were other albums... Really J at his finest....

[Corey Y]

It takes a lot for me to quit anything. To the opposite extreme honestly, I try way too hard to endure terrible situations I should just walk away from immediately. I've been at a band practice sitting in a chair with a puke bucket between my feet. I learned to play without the index finger on my fretting hand for a month, when I cut the tip of it off at work. I've gone home from band practice, then had my wife drive me directly to the emergency room. I've done way worse things in non band situations, but I would not advocate doing any of them. I'm a hard headed b*stard.

[JoeVictim]

Waiting for all the details, but we are on a 12/22 show. Or as I am calling it, the first day of the end of the world.

Playing with an indie/alternative type band. Wish there were some more Doom bands in my neck...

[JMac4strngr]

Originally Posted by JoeVictim

Oh man... maybe we want to hear about it.

I think the dude I jammed with awhile ago moved to your town. Plates of food, cups with **** growing out of them, dirty smell, cat feces everywhere. Freaking sucked. That drummer almost made me quit music. After 10 months we had 4 songs. We couldn't play one of those without major screw ups and I was tired of writing the music that no one played. First time I ever felt like a failure at music.


Also, do you know who you are into yet?

Hahaha, Actually it sounds like the same guy moved through some trans-dimesional time warp or something.
This was around 05, when I was still "on break" but wanting to get back into playing again. I answered an add, (may have been CL or Creative Loafing M.E, I cant directly recall at the moment) for a "experimental garage metal" band looking for a bassist. 1st off, these Guys talked a huge game over the phone about how badass they were (red flag #1).

Luckily for Me, My girlfriend at the time who had nothing better to do that day went with Me. To start things off, the lazy "brown-stars" stood around and watched while She helped Me lump My rig down a flite of narrow stairs, into their basement jam space that reeked of cat urine and fecies.

Honestly, at the sight of the place I was afraid of catching some sort of strange disease/ zombie infection. For the most part, anything that You could sit something on top of it had several empty beer cans and/or a KFC box with a half eaten 2 piecer, that was no telling how old. While setting up, I notice the drummer (who owned the place) removing some dirty laundry from His kit (underwear).

Now on to the grand performance: No PA to speak of (vocalist, singing through an old marshall valvestate combo). I thought fair enough, I'm here maybe they wont exactly suck too bad. Wow, drummer couldn't keep time to save his life, must less work any fills. The guitarist on the other hand wasn't super awefull but probably hadn't strung his instrument or tuned it fo quite a while. Vocalist, no comment.
I attempted to play a couple of their songs with'em, but soon decided to shake head, case My gear and head home.
Funny enough, they called Me a couple of weeks later and asked if I would be interested in doing a battle of the bands with'em... My answer was, UH NO!

All that said, I'm still somewhat frightened of CL band meet-ups.

I was actually introduced to some of these by My Younger brother, Who figured that I would like it. So far, I've been liking and listening to: Sleep, Black Cobra, Kyuss, and Electric Wizard.

[Lazarus.Bird]

Did anyone here know Wino played guitar on Red Horse Rainbow?!

http://theobelisk.net/obelisk/2012/1...owednesday-61/

JMac, those are solid bands to start with. The fact that you dig both Kyuss and Black Cobra means that you have pretty diverse tastes, from groove to grind. I imagine you'd like most of the bands mentioned here!

Some others to check out would be...

High on Fire
Weedeater
Clutch
Saint Vitus
Earthless
The Sword
Graveyard
Witchcraft
Red Fang

[metalinthenight]

Originally Posted by Toastfuzz

Hey man, you guys killed it! I'm friends with the guys from Red Hands, I came to see them but honestly you guys were the best show of the night. Some slick jams my friend, and that BTB sounded nasty!

Thanks man! Much appreciated! Honestly, it's so easy to get bogged down and disenchanted with my tone on the endless gear/amp/pedal tone-quest.

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

Hey man! Good luck on the rest of your tour! This thread would appreciate the fact that last night you were playing through a 70s Acoustic head and Emperor cab

I love that head. I normally play through an Acoustic 370, but it is in the shop right now. The Emperor cab is sick! It is Garrett's (the bassist from Hrvrd). It's been fun getting to try out that cab for a few nights on this tour. Definitely different from my Sunn 2x15, which I'm sure you Doom guys would appreciate as well.

(PS I love doom/sludge. Wish I had the time to put together a doom project)

[JMac4strngr]

Originally Posted by twhitedc

That's a great area! Did Criminal Records Close? I would imagine that there's got to be some sort of stoney scene going on in the city.. especially down there.



that album is AMAZING I wish there were other albums... Really J at his finest....

Yea, I love the area and have been hanging around here in one form or another for years. The last time I checked, Criminal had moved to another spot, down near the square. I think I recall hearing that the rent for the space next to Junkman's Daughter was getting to high for'em.
I am sure, without a doubt that there is a scene, but I've just gotta find My way to it.

[JoeVictim]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

Did anyone here know Wino played guitar on Red Horse Rainbow?!

http://theobelisk.net/obelisk/2012/1...owednesday-61/

JMac, those are solid bands to start with. The fact that you dig both Kyuss and Black Cobra means that you have pretty diverse tastes, from groove to grind. I imagine you'd like most of the bands mentioned here!

Some others to check out would be...

High on Fire
Weedeater
Clutch
Saint Vitus
Earthless
The Sword
Graveyard
Witchcraft
Red Fang

LOL. I started with Black Cobra, HOF (high on fire), and Torche.

I'll second all of Laz's picks. Weedeater is a good band to get into, from North Carolina too. Zoroaster is from the ATL. Check them out if you can.

Buy the Meteor City Records Comp ...And Back to Earth Again. It's 3CD's with a ton of good bands to get your feet wet. You can find it (at allthatisheavy.com) for a pretty good price. I got mine for like $12 and it had been on sale for $6.66.

[JMac4strngr]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

Did anyone here know Wino played guitar on Red Horse Rainbow?!

http://theobelisk.net/obelisk/2012/1...owednesday-61/

JMac, those are solid bands to start with. The fact that you dig both Kyuss and Black Cobra means that you have pretty diverse tastes, from groove to grind. I imagine you'd like most of the bands mentioned here!

Some others to check out would be...

High on Fire
Weedeater
Clutch
Saint Vitus
Earthless
The Sword
Graveyard
Witchcraft
Red Fang

Laz, I had listened to some clips of Saint Vitus on Youtube a while back and really liked it, so I'll dig a little deeper on that one.
Funny enough, I hadn't thought of Clutch. I have actually been listening to them for a number of Years, and for a short while, My former band did a cover of "Powerplayer", from the album "From Beale Street to Oblivion".

I will def, check out the others. Thanks Man!

[father of fires]

All of this show talk is making me extra bummed.