Stoner/DOOM Bassists part 35: Colorado Bound

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by JMac4strngr

Yes, those are Mine. The red one is a Japanese Fender Jag, that I took all the flash'n'dash off of. One is a MP, basically stock. One is a MP Body with a VM Squier Jag neck. All got the same pickup and bridge appointments ( EMG PJ set and Badass II). IMO- the MP stuff is a damned good bargain, all around.

Nice!!! I love how comfortable they are to play, and for such a light bass they have great low end response. Do you use dirt pedals in your setup? I couldnt get the EMG's to play nice with my pedalboard so I went back to stock passives and have been very happy.

Originally Posted by dozicusmaximus

Def old school death metal to me. More mid paced death and faster doom riffs though. But I'm young so... To me the old school death metal bands had more slow heavy atmospheric riffs mixed in.

Gotcha, growing up in the 90's they were considered death metal, I just never agreed with it. Back then to me if it didn't have cannibal blasts it wasn't true DM. Some of those bands you listed def brought back some memories, I LOVED Incantation back in the day, they defined heavy tone to me, and like you said total riff factory.

[Toastfuzz]

Originally Posted by sludgelord3000

Listen to:

Kyuss - Welcome to Sky Valley (the Sgt Pepper of stoner rock records)

Hah thats accurate as f*ck

Originally Posted by Sartori

Define "modern hygiene"?

The opposite of taking a week old dirty tampon and wiping it all over yourself from head to toe, while at the same time chewing on the little butt nuggets you find stuck to your inner thigh (since toilet paper is a luxury of the 1% apparently)

[ampegfuzz]

Originally Posted by Ancient Tone

Gotcha, growing up in the 90's they were considered death metal, I just never agreed with it. Back then to me if it didn't have cannibal blasts it wasn't true DM. Some of those bands you listed def brought back some memories, I LOVED Incantation back in the day, they defined heavy tone to me, and like you said total riff factory.

I love that old school sludgy death metal! Early SFU and jungle rot. I seen a band last year called vermillion, total sludge death. From Wisconsin I believe. Best part, two of the dudes are in a Motörhead tribute band

[The_Janitor]

Pungent Stench, FTW.

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by ampegfuzz

I love that old school sludgy death metal! Early SFU and jungle rot. I seen a band last year called vermillion, total sludge death. From Wisconsin I believe. Best part, two of the dudes are in a Motörhead tribute band

Dude..... Jungle Rot!!! I haven't listened to them in forever!!!! Now I'm gonna have to go through my old high school cd binder and see if i can find them. Looking back at my tastes in high school i can see why i eventually ended up with being a total doom head. I was obsessed with bands like Hypocrisy, Obituary, Jungle Rot, Bongzilla, EW, SFU, Tch Kung, Grey Skies Fallen, Katatonia..... Ahhhh nostalgia...

[Toastfuzz]

I think title of the next thread should be "Old School Death Metal Wannabes" yuk yuk yuk

I hear Cannibal Corpse is coming thru town soon, looking to lock down tickets for that shiz today.... love me some old school DM!

[Ancient Tone]

HAHAHA I kinda want to start a vegetarian stoner death doom band called "Cannibal Crops" with CD covers of Weed plants on bath salts attacking homeless broccoli.

[JMac4strngr]

Originally Posted by Ancient Tone

Nice!!! I love how comfortable they are to play, and for such a light bass they have great low end response. Do you use dirt pedals in your setup? I couldnt get the EMG's to play nice with my pedalboard so I went back to stock passives.

I agree, those are My thoughts as well. At the time when I bought My first MP Jag, I was shocked by how good it looked and played for it's price, and being a tweeker/modder by nature, I knew without a doubt that I would tear it apart to do something to it when I got it home, so the low entry price made it that much more appealing. That said, the day I bought the first one, it was a choice between it and a Geddy Lee Jazz, and the Modern Player won.

Regarding the EMG's. Over the Years I've went back and forth with EMG's, I totally love'em or hate'em depending on the bass or music that I'm playing. At this moment, I can say that I like'em well enough.
I'm not running any effects to speak of, I've just been naturally overdriving My amps to get what I want(Vintage Ampeg V-4 with an 810, or Orange TB-500 with a fearful 15/6-tube---which replaced My old SVT Classic, faital-215 rig).

[ampegfuzz]

Originally Posted by Ancient Tone

Dude..... Jungle Rot!!! I haven't listened to them in forever!!!! Now I'm gonna have to go through my old high school cd binder and see if i can find them. Looking back at my tastes in high school i can see why i eventually ended up with being a total doom head. I was obsessed with bands like Hypocrisy, Obituary, Jungle Rot, Bongzilla, EW, SFU, Tch Kung, Grey Skies Fallen, Katatonia..... Ahhhh nostalgia...

Early influences include SFU, JR, crowbar, COC, pretty much anything slower and heavy. I know I'm forgetting 3 or 4 other bands. Stuff I've lost or had stolen.

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by JMac4strngr

I agree, those are My thoughts as well. At the time when I bought My first MP Jag, I was shocked by how good it looked and played for it's price, and being a tweeker/modder by nature, I knew without a doubt that I would tear it apart to do something to it when I got it home, so the low entry price made it that much more appealing. That said, the day I bought the first one, it was a choice between it and a Geddy Lee Jazz, and the Modern Player won.

Regarding the EMG's. Over the Years I've went back and forth with EMG's, I totally love'em or hate'em depending on the bass or music that I'm playing. At this moment, I can say that I like'em well enough.
I'm not running any effects to speak of, I've just been naturally overdriving My amps to get what I want(Vintage Ampeg V-4 with an 810, or Orange TB-500 with a fearful 15/6-tube---which replaced My old SVT Classic, faital-215 rig).

I thought I would be modding mine as well but i like it just the way it is, all though i could see upgrading the pickups at some time, as you have to dial back the j p/u to get it to blend right. My favorite part was the neck its so smooth and the fretboard is great, like i said i just wish it was 1 11/16 at the nut.

I battled with my EMG's in my p-bass for months before i finally swapped em out for a p-p/u out of a MP jag and upgraded the pots to 500k. Man I'm glad i did, it made the tone pot alot more usable and my dirt pedals don't sound like they are being overloaded at the input. But I have to admit that the EMG clean tone was superior, but negligible since i usually play with the tone rolled all the way off. BTW that amp setup sounds amazing!!!! I'm currently just using an AD200B and Emperor ported 2x12, I play both baritone guitar and bass in my current band so i needed a small but potent rig to complement my guitar rig.

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by ampegfuzz

Early influences include SFU, JR, crowbar, COC, pretty much anything slower and heavy. I know I'm forgetting 3 or 4 other bands. Stuff I've lost or had stolen.

COC was a big one for me as well, I found wiseblood in a used book store for like 2 dollars and was hooked immediately.

[JoeVictim]

Yeah, stolen stuff sucks. I think I have bought the record Bad Religion 'All Ages' 3 or 4 times and I only have a burned copy right now... people suck.

[Toastfuzz]

Anyone want an early 90's Carvin pre? Just donned on me that its gathering dust in my room, if anyone wants it I'll ship it to you (free of course)

[ampegfuzz]

Originally Posted by Ancient Tone

COC was a big one for me as well, I found wiseblood in a used book store for like 2 dollars and was hooked immediately.

The icing on the cake was discovering Floor about 6-7 years ago. I had to start a heavy / slow tempo band after that.

[dunwichamps]

best thing you can do for any torche fan is to show them floor

[The_Janitor]

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

best thing you can do for any torche fan is to show them floor

Quoted for truth. That s/t album was so mind-blowingly heavy and different when it came out. I was a fan of them before that, but that album was just jaw-dropping. No power chords!

Since we're talking about old-school death metal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcv9w_-Dmwg

[swspiers]

Originally Posted by Toastfuzz

Anyone want an early 90's Carvin pre? Just donned on me that its gathering dust in my room, if anyone wants it I'll ship it to you (free of course)

...details?

[dunwichamps]

i was lucky. When i first heard torche my friend at the same time showed me floor. nowadays its more likely you will hear torche far before floor

[JMac4strngr]

Originally Posted by JoeVictim

Yeah, stolen stuff sucks. I think I have bought the record Bad Religion 'All Ages' 3 or 4 times and I only have a burned copy right now... people suck.

Yep 10/4 to that shat, My all time most stolen Album is/was White Zombie, La Sexorcisto: Devil Music, Vol. 1. I can honestly say that since 93, I have owned it on cassette 4 times and CD about 6.
Next in line behind that would be (the now out of print) Nativity In Black Parts 1 and 2, sabbath tribute albums, that both of which I'm sure I've owned several times in various formats.

[Lazarus.Bird]

So here's the Orange in the band mix. I think I'm sold.

http://soundcloud.com/lazarus-bird/orange-terror-bass-1000-in